Episode 120 with Amanda Suffecool

Can you protect your family at home and in your car? Firearms instructor Amanda Suffecool brings us three new stories of self-defense. (15 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 120 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.

 This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Amanda Suffecool with us as co-host.

Hi, Amanda. How have you been?

Amanda- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been taking a short break from all things guns, to focus on my second life.  Aerospace engineering. But – thankfully – I am done with that, and now engaged in several cool things.   Nationally syndicated our Radio Show- Stay tuned for more news in September.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Amanda- We’ll study three recent examples of armed defense.  These armed citizens survived a life threatening situation. What should we do if we were in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Republic, Washington.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed as you drive?  

You’re driving down the street. You’re 20 miles from the canadian border and there are less than two dozen streets in the entire town. It’s usually a quiet place. You’re parking in front of a clothing store when a stranger jumps through the open passenger window of your car. He shouts for you to get out of your car.

You own a gun. You have your concealed carry license. You’ve practiced with your firearm and you’re armed this morning as you drive.

The article does not say if you drew your gun while you were inside the car or outside, but you present your gun and order the robber to the ground. You tell him not to move. Police arrest the robber for multiple break ins he committed that morning.

The police facebook page described the event this way. “Crimes happen and they happen in the blink of an eye usually when you least expect them, even in small towns like Republic. I encourage the free exercise of our inalienable rights. If you go about your day unarmed and helpless, you are a victim waiting for a crime to happen. YOU are responsible for your protection, the police, even as hard as we try, usually only arrive after the crime.

“Get a gun, take a class and refuse to be a victim.

“Thank you to everyone who helps the police, we are you.”

Amanda- Most of us leave our gun up on the shelf and yet we carry this fantasy that we can use it for defense.

Rob- We pretend we’re armed at home, and that we don’t need a gun when we’re in our car. So you want me to go armed as I drive to the store?

Amanda- Rob, I know you think you’re special, but you’re special just like the rest of us. Yes, carry your gun. Even you, and even when you’re driving in your car. Make your firearms instructor proud of you.

Rob- Defending yourself inside your car is hard. Most of us don’t have training to do it. And it’s very different from what I practice at the shooting range.

Amanda- A gun is a defensive tool that works best at a distance. We want to be far enough away from our attacker that we can stop the attack before the attacker can reach us with his hands. That is why it was a good choice to step out of the car and then draw your gun.

Rob- Our driver didn’t have much time to think.

Amanda- No, he didn’t. Criminals attack us without warning. That is why we talk about these stories now, so that we have a model in place of what we could do in a situation like this. There are over 6 thousand examples of armed self-defense every day, and each one is different. Each of these gun-owners adapted their plan to their situation.

Rob- What else did you see in this story?

Amanda- The defender gave verbal commands.

(command voice) Stop. Get back. Get on the ground. Stay there.

That tells the criminal what to do. It also attracts witnesses. They might not be eye witnesses, they might be ear-witnesses. They heard you tell the robber to stop the attack. If you have to shoot, then those loud, clear commands have already started your defense.

Rob- So that is why my instructor had me shout “STOP” when he had me practice drawing my gun?

Amanda- Exactly. We want to build that habit as we practice.

Another thing. It is really hard to hold someone at gunpoint and get on the phone at the same time. The local police appreciated that our defender detained the robber. Larger police departments would tell you to let the robber go and get on the phone. You want to do that so you identify yourself as the good guy. I suspect that the witnesses called police in this case.

Rob- Lets go on to our next story.

Amanda- Our second story happened last week in Forest City, North Carolina.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home?

You hear the yelling and screaming. Your mom’s ex boyfriend threatened to cut your mom’s throat and to kill all of you. Now he’s choking your mom. Your older sister is trying to pull them apart and save your mom. It isn’t working. Your younger brother grabs your mom’s gun and runs toward the fight. Your brother is only 12 years old. You are 15, so you take the gun from your brother and shoot the attacker. Now he lets go of your mom.

Your family runs away and calls police. The police said your mom’s boyfriend was a convicted felon.

Amanda- Don’t date violent people.

Rob- Right

Amanda- Childproof your guns, and gun-proof your children.

Rob- Tell me more.

Amanda- This woman was terrorized by her violent boyfriend. She got a gun for self-defense. She should also have taken out a restraining order, or an order of protection. Even though it is only a piece of paper, it is an important step in your legal defense if you have to use force to defend yourself.

Rob- be hard to convict

Amanda- This is what I have to teach someone who was not a gun person and then they get a gun.

Storage.

Family training for safe handling

Personal defense

I’m glad her son could get to the gun. If your kids are old enough to be left alone then they are old enough to know about your firearms.

Rob- That is serious.

Amanda- Life and death. Our third story happened last week in Cool, California.

Rob- First this message

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at home?  

It is after dark, and you hear someone knock at your door and call your name. It is your neighbors. All of them. The husband, the wife, and their child are asking to come in. You open the door. They said a crazy man broke into their home. They had already called police. You try to make them comfortable when your wife sees someone at your back door.

A stranger breaks through your screen porch and then breaks the glass in your back door. You yell for him to stop. He enters the home and you shoot him.

Now your attacker steps back outside the home. You and your family retreat and call police.

EMTs take the attacker to the hospital.

Amanda- This is the episode where second parties are armed. We had that in our first story too. It sounds like the intruder could have been intoxicated.

Rob- It is hard to reason with a crazy person.

Amanda- Do you have your gun on you right now?

Rob- Yes.

Amanda- Good. You don’t need a carry permit to go armed at home. You need a gun and to know how to use it

..and have a holster. A holster helps a lot.

Rob- Better yet if all four of the adults in this story were armed.

Amanda- That would have been good, and maybe that would have been enough to stop the attack without shots being fired.
I like that our defender stopped shooting when the attack stopped.

Rob- He did not chase the bad guy and keep shooting.

Amanda- At night? You don’t know how many people are outside your home. The crazy attacker may have had friends.

Our armed defender did the right thing. He moved his family and his neighbors to safety and called police. That identified the homeowner as the good guy, and he got help on the way.

Rob- Goodguys call police. Did the first family do the right thing to leave their home when they were attacked?

Amanda- If they didn’t have a tool to defend themselves, then they did the right thing. They ran to safety and called police. I’m glad their neighbor was able to protect them.

Exit-  Rob- And we’ve run out of time. Amanda, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Amanda- You can find me at eye on the target radio radio. I have two radio programs and I instruct on the weekends.

Rob- Don’t you have a concealed carry fashion show in the works?

Amanda-?  Yeah I do.  At GRPC – Gun Rights Policy Conference in Chicago put on by the 2nd Amendment Foundation.   It should be the kick off to a good 2A time.

Rob- Some listeners asked us to put out a longer show. Some like it short. Please tell us what you like by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Amanda-   We share this podcast with you for free.  All we ask is that you share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 119 with Tony Simon

Are you armed at home and in public? Firearms instructor Tony Simon brings us three new self-defense stories. (15 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 119 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Tony Simon with us as co-host.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?

Tony- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been hosting the 2nd is For Everyone Diversity Shoot. The latest event was last Thursday at Gun For Hire range in Woodland Park NJ. We introduced a few new shooters to firearms.

Rob- Well done, and thank you. While you’re making introductions, please describe our podcast to our new listeners.

Tony- We study three recent examples of armed defense.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation. What should we do if we were in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You’re not sure if you heard it or not. You wake up and hear something moving around in your house. You sit up and see someone in your bedroom. You grab your handgun and shoot at the intruder. He runs away. You call police. It is 3:30 in the morning.

Tony-  That’s scary.

Rob- and it happens every day. You’re a locksmith. How many of your customers call you after an event like this and want better locks?

Lock your doors. Many thieves creep around neighborhoods checking homes and cars to see if they’re locked. When they find an open door they go in and steal what they can.

Rob- Why?

Tony-  Locked doors and alarms will buy you time. The thief arrives with a plan. You need to me to put your plan in place.

Alarms should be a part of your home’s layered security. After 25 years of being a locksmith I can tell you many homeowners never hear the breaking glass or a kicked in door that indicates a home invasion.Alarms make you aware of your outer security being breached.

It can also get authorities responding to your home alarm even if you can’t call them yourself. Alams can also scare off intruders.

Rob- What do you think of the do it yourself security systems that link to your PC and your phone?

Tony- Also, I want you to have a flashlight. You have to identify what goes bump in the night. Too many people are injured or killed because of misidentification by armed homeowners. It’s tragic and avoidable.

Rob- Learn from other people’s mistakes, and please practice with your light since most attacks are after dark.

Tony- Great that he had a gun with him. The no one was hurt but at bedroom distance the homeowner missed the bad guy. You don’t get to choose when you use your firearm. Be accurate enough to hit what you are shooting at, you are responsible for every round you fire.

Rob- I can see two reasons he might have missed the intruder. One is stress. The other is that it is hard to see your sights in the dark.

Talk to me about the training steps we’d want our students to have before the meet a stranger in the dark.

Tony- Firearms safety. Safe storage. Load and unload your gun.

On-body carry and presentation.

Target practice.

Moving with a gun.

Training will overcome stress. We already talked about practicing with your flashlight.

Our second story happened last week in Titusville, Florida.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at the park?   You’re walking across the park. In front of you is a rally where a community group is giving away free school supplies to poor kids. You see a guy run up and pull a gun from his pants. This guy starts shooting into the crowd. You see people run. Now the attacker tracks some of the people in the crowd. You draw your gun and shoot the attacker.

You have your carry permit. You holster your gun and wait for police. EMTs take the attacker to the hospital.

Tony-  The video from this has been all over social media. Thank God that hero was there to stop the potential massacre. I think it raises an important question for all people regardless of whether they carry a weapon for self defense. Do you get involved or do you get yourself and your family to safety?

Rob- Talk about that. What should I consider if I’m there with my family, and if I’m there alone?

Tony- As an armed self defender you need to have the ability to hit your target and stop them immediately. We also don’t want to hit innocent bystanders.

Rob- Moving headshot in a crowd.

Talk to me about a “cold test.”

Tony- The “cold test” is going to the range, setting your target at a distance you feel you can hit your target effectively and firing your first shot on target. You can choose drawing from concealment or not. The result tells us what you are capable of at that time.

Training doesn’t have to be a lifestyle but you must learn the fundamentals and be able to apply them at anytime. You should also learn your limitations with your firearm. At what distance can you hit at target effectively? 10 effective shots consecutively on target was one standard that I’ve given myself.  

Tony- Our third story happened last week in Litchfield, Texas.

Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you arrive home?  

You pull up to your house you notice your neighbor being attacked by a man with a knife. You step out of your car. She is screaming and trying to get her two children out of the carseats in the back of her automobile. Her boyfriend was trying to help her, but an attacker was cutting them both with a knife and trying to take the car.

You draw your gun and step between the car and the attacker. Now the attacker runs across the street. You call police.

When the police finally get there, the assailant drops the knife and attacks the police.

Tony-  Another hero steps in and saves a family. The news story stated that no one was injured which is great.

Rob- And hard to believe given that the attacker had a knife.

Tony-  The only thing that I find concerning was the gun owner placing himself between the knife wielding attacker and the car. Distance is your friend and armed with a firearm. The more distance and objects you put between yourself and the knife the more the results are tipped in your favor.

Rob- What would you tell your students to do?

Tony- Get on the other side of the car or anything that would require you bad guy to run around to get to you. That gives the defender more time to put rounds on the bad guy and reduce the chances of get stabbed.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Tony- My website is Diversityshoot.com You can find me on Instagram and facebook at Simon Says Train and The 2nd is For Everyone podcast.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-   We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 118 with Andee Reardon

Are you armed at home and at work? Firearms instructor Andee Reardon brings us three new self-defense stories. (13 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 118 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Andee Reardon with us as co-host.

Hi, Andee.  How have you been?

Andee- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been teaching and training. Over the weekend I was at the Women Who Shoot retreat here in Maine. We had an awesome group of women who came and we had a blast shooting together.

And you?

Rob- I went to a three day training course for school teachers. Defending kids is deadly serious business and there is a lot to learn.

Andee- I love it! I hope more schools begin to do this and become open to the thought of arming teachers and staff.

Rob- Andee, please let our new listeners know what they’ll learn here.

Andee- We study three recent examples of armed defense.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation. Were they lucky, or were they well trained? What should we do if we were in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Triadelphia, West Virginia.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at work?

You’re behind the bar at the First and Last Shot Cantina. It is after midnight when you look up to see a stranger walk through the door. This stranger has a gun in his hands. You draw your handgun and point it at the robber. The robber turns and runs. You don’t shoot, but you do call police. Police dogs tracked the robber back to his car, but the robber wasn’t there.

Andee- on body or behind the counter? The story doesn’t say but I like to think he was carrying on body. You never know when you’ll need your pistol and the last thing you want is for it to be out of reach.

Rob- What would have happened if you were at the other end of the bar serving customers when a man walks in and presents a gun. Now the robber gets both the money AND your gun.

Andee- Please carry on body if you can. There are so many options for holsters out there, there aren’t many reasons not to carry on your person.

Andee- Sometimes just having a gun and being confident that you know how to use it is enough. The bartender quickly changed the scene when he drew his gun causing the robber to flee. I’m a firm believer that you shouldn’t carry unless you are prepared to shoot but often that isn’t even necessary..

Andee- Our second story happened last week in Memphis, Tennessee.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home?

It is late at night and you’re getting ready for bed. You hear someone knock on  your front door. Then they ring the bell. They are banging on the door really hard, so  you look out the window. You see a strange man sitting in a car in your driveway and a strange woman beating on your door.

You grab the shotgun that you and your husband keep for defense. The strange woman walked around to the side of the house and began trying to open your side door. The intruder breaks the glass and you walk around the corner with your shotgun leveled at her.  The intruder sees you and your gun. Her hands go up in the air, she turns around and walk back to the car. Both the burglar and her getaway driver head down the road. You call police.

Andee- It’s so important to be armed at home with a gun and a plan. This women never had to fire a shot. She showed she was armed and willing to protect herself and that was enough for the would-be robbers. Criminals often work together. I’m glad the homeowner didn’t just open the door because she saw a woman outside. She looked around and noticed the man waiting in the vehicle parked outside.

Andee- What if the gun was on the other side of the house so the homeowner had to fight her way to her shotgun? Keeping your firearm accessible is important and if you don’t carry in your home, make sure you have staged weapons where you can easily grab one if needed.

Andee- Something I did notice that I wanted to point out was the homeowner put the barrel of the shotgun through the window. This is something you don’t want to do, it would give the intruders a chance to grab the gun and take it from her. Always keep that “reactionary gap” open so you have time and space to react to what is going on. Luckily everything went well for the homeowner and she is safe thanks, to owning a firearm.

Andee- Our third story happened last week in Phenix City, Alabama.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at work?

You’re restocking the refrigerator case at a convenience store. It is 11 at night and a customer comes in with a gun in his hands. He tells you to give him the money in the register. That is exactly what you do.

Next, the robber tells you to get down on your knees and the robber puts a gun in your face. The robber turns away to grab some cigarettes. You grab your gun and shoot the robber three times in the chest. Then you call police. They transport the robber to the hospital and take the robber’s gun.

News reports said your gun was a 45.

Andee- This is another case showing why on the body carry is so important. The store clerk most likely wouldn’t have had a good opportunity to draw his gun had it not been on his body. He waited for the right moment to draw, when the suspect was distracted with grabbing some cigarettes. If someone has a gun aimed right at you and you try to draw, chances are you’ll be shot. Keep calm and wait for the right moment.

Andee- wait your turn.

Andee- Something I really took from this story was the clerk did not want to harm the man but was given a choice of shooting or the possibility of losing his own life. The media often portrays gun owners as bloodthirsty people who wish for the opportunity to use their gun. This man’s testimony shows he did not want to shoot and he even prayed for the man he shot, hoping he would be ok.

Exit-  Rob- And that wraps up this episode. Andee, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Andee- You can find me at EastCoastSchoolofSafety.com and on my facebook and Instagram pages with the same name.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Andee-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network. We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 117 with Jeff Street

Are you armed at home and on the street? Can you protect those you love? Firearms instructor Jeff Street brings us three new stories. (13 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 117 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Jeff Street with us as co-host.

Hi, Jeff.  How have you been?

Jeff- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been busy training, both indoors, and outdoor is in the south florida heat.  Wow.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Jeff- We study three recent examples of armed defense.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation. What should we do if we were in their place?

We Get a lot of time to think about these stories before we comment on them.  Our listeners need to think about their daily lives and what possible problems they might encounter.  

Our first story took place last week in Houston, Texas.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home at night?  

It is after dark. You hear your wife scream from outside your house. You walk to the windows and see two men grabbing your wife and pushing her towards the front door. You grab your handgun and step outside. The robbers shoot at you. You shoot them. Now they run.

One of the suspects was arrested at the hospital. Both you and your wife are uninjured, but badly shaken.

Jeff- great that he had a gun

Rob- two robbers versus you and your wife. I don’t like those odds.

Jeff- Home invasion method that defeats Locks and Alarms. Situational Awareness Levels, P.O.G.O. What door do you exit from to confront the attackers? Exchange of Fire hostage shot, Difficulty of your problem, Moving Targets, Skills needed, skills tested

Jeff- It isn’t clear if the man was armed, or if he had to go get his gun. If you have your gun up in a closet, then time yourself to see how long it takes you to get it. Start at your front door, go get your gun, load it, and then get back to the front door.

Rob- ccw vs sniper shot

Jeff- He shot the attacker in the head..at night

Jeff- Our second story happened last week in Chicago, Illinois.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you drive your car?   

You are driving for a ride share company. It is almost midnight when you pick up two customers. Before you start to drive, the two passengers start punching you and reaching for the car keys. You have your concealed carry permit. You’re armed this night.  You lean away from them and draw your firearm. They run from your car.

Jeff- Not the safest job ever, most of us will not ever need to draw while in a car.  This would be an exception. Once someone has your car and they are driving away, let it go. Do you have your cars License plate number memorized or recorded on your phone?

A common situation, and becoming more common every day.

Rob- I didn’t learn to draw my firearm from a seated position when I took my CCW class.

Jeff- Not our CCW students either.

Rob- Sounds like it takes a couple of steps to get there.

Jeff- But you can learn it small step by step. First we have to learn firearms safety, to live with a loaded gun concealed on your body, learn to present when you’re standing, then learn  to do so when sitting.

Jeff- Our third story happened last week outside Greenville, South Carolina, but first this message.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you arrive home in the morning?

You dropped your two children off at school. You open the door and notice a strange smell. You go upstairs and hear someone in your bedroom. You open your bedroom closet and a man reaches out to grab you. You have your concealed carry permit. You are armed. You draw your gun and shoot your attacker. You run out of the house and call police.

Police identify your dead attacker as the stalker who’d threatened you at work. Now, he’s broken into your home.

Jeff-  risk of working in the public, gun must have been in her hand as she opened to closet door.  Maybe tell the intruder to stay in the closet until police arrive? Talk through the door but not in front of the door.

A gun is one tool for self-defense. There are other tools as well. For example, I wish she had a home alarm. She could have stayed outside and let the police find her stalker.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Jeff, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Jeff- You can find me at Step by Step Gun Training in Naples Florida.  We provide custom training courses as well as group classes. Our listeners can leave me a message for us on the Step by Step Facebook page.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Jeff-   We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 116 with Tiffany Johnson

Are you armed at home? Can you defend yourself on the street? Firearms instructor Tiffany Johnson brings us three new stories. (17 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 116 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who think they might want a firearm for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Tiffany Johnson with us as co-host.

Hi, Tiffany.  How have you been?

Tiffany- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been too busy with classes and my day jobs.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Tiffany- We study three recent examples of armed defense.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation. What should we do if we were in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Carlsbad, California.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?

It is Friday night and you’re having some friends over. Sometimes friends invite friends, so you see several strangers in your home and you ask them who they came with. They invited themselves, so you ask them to leave. They argue, but they go away. Not too long after that, you hear a terrible crash from your front door. These strangers kicked in your front door and are now standing in your hallway. You grab your gun and shoot at the intruders. Now they run.

Two of the attackers are wounded. Their friends took them to separate hospitals with non- life threatening injuries.

Tiffany- The door was locked.

Rob- Yes it was. That gave the homeowner more time to react as the home invaders broke down his door. A video camera and a motion detector would have given him warning too.

Tiffany, Yes, and they would have bought him even more time. The homeowner also had a firearm nearby. It’s unlikely that the gun was carried concealed, but even in anti-gun Carlsbad, California, you may still carry concealed at home.

Rob- Was the use of force justified?

Tiffany- Violent entry by multiple men is considered justifiable cause for self-defense. This wasn’t the fire department breaking through a door to get to someone who was trapped in a fire. This sounds more like gang activity.

Rob- It sounds like that to me too. But that can happen to honest people too. What should we do if we were in their place?

Tiffany- Our second story happened last week near Sacramento, California.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home?   

You hired several men to work on a construction project on your property. The sounds changed from the sound of saws and hammers, to the sound of screams and yells. You see one of the construction workers hit another worker with a hammer..several times. You grab your shotgun and run to the scene. You yell for the attacker to stop and threaten to shoot him. Now he stops the attack. You then shout for the other workers to call police and EMTs. You tell the attacker not to move. Sheriff’s deputies arrive by helicopter and secure the scene. The victim was taken to the hospital by ambulance and required surgery for life threatening injuries to his head. The attacker was arrested, and out on parole.

Tiffany- You want to investigate who you’re inviting on your property. This homeowner had a friend doing the construction work. The other laborers were friends of friends. That means you don’t know who is in your house. Real professionals have a license and are bonded to protect the homeowner from issues like this one.

Tiffany- It sounds like this was a rural neighborhood and the homeowner had a loaded shotgun at hand.

Rob- That is why the cops used a helicopter to get there quickly. What should we do with a violent criminal once he’s stopped an attack on a third person?

Tiffany- Our third story happened last week in Richmond, California, but first this message.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at night?  

It is after midnight. You are staying at your parents home when you hear breaking glass. You grab your gun and investigate. There you see a stranger standing in the front room of the house and he has something in his hands. You tell him to get out. He walks toward you. You shoot him until he stops advancing. Now your folks are awake, and they call 911. EMTs take your attacker to the hospital. The police recover 7 empty shell casings.

Your attacker had an arrest record for home invasion. Police think he’d broken into two other homes that night.

Tiffany- This is the california episode, isn’t it?

Rob- People defend themselves even in anti-gun California.

Tiffany- Of course they are. Thousands of us need to defend ourselves every day.

Rob- Would you explain why lethal force was justified in this case?

Tiffany- At home, dark of night, the intruder didn’t stop when confronted.

Rob- What does it mean by shooting until the attacker stopped?

Tiffany- We’re employing the firearm as a tool. It can stop a person from attacking us or other innocent parties. Once that attack is stopped, then our justification for using lethal force stops also. You may have every right to shoot a criminal who has broken into your home and shows every sign of attacking you. Once the criminal turns to run, you have to stop shooting because the attacker is no longer a threat.

Rob- What do you tell your students to do?

Tiffany- you don’t have much warning. By the time you knew there was a problem, the intruder was already in your home. There were several family members in the home, so you probably don’t have time to gather together and barricade behind your bedroom door. That limits your options, so you might have to confront an intruder as this man did.

Exit- Rob- And speaking of ??? that wraps up this episode. Tiffany, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Tiffany- My website is Front Sight Press and I instruct at Citizens Safety Academy and Rangemaster

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tiffany-  We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 115 with Robyn Street

Have you prepared your home? Can you yourself on the street? Firearms instructor Robyn Street brings us three new stories of armed defense. (14 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 115 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Robyn Street with us as co-host.

Hi, Robyn.  How have you been?

Robyn- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been good. We have been working on strengthening our self defense tool box.  We have been working on enhancing our situational awareness, self defense and knife training.  I would like to avoid ever being attacked, but if I am attacked, I want a robust set of skills to escape and to protect myself.  I am really enjoying learning and refining my skills. I also got to shoot black powder muzzle loaded rifles with my friends. It was really fun but my friends just kept saying if I had been a soldier back in the old days, I would not have lasted very long.  I was not very fast loading the rifle. My primary focus was on safety.

Rob- And speaking of safety tools, please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Robyn- We study three recent examples of armed defense.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation. What should we do if we were in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Fresno, California.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

It is well after dark when you hear someone knocking on your front door. You check your doorbell camera and don’t recognize the woman standing on your porch. The stranger says her friend lives there. The strange woman is obviously confused, and she also sounds increasingly angry as she demands to be let in. You call police. The strange woman rips the screen door off your entryway and the screens off your windows. Your doors and windows are locked. The intruder throws herself an your door over and over, then starts banging on your windows.

You tell her you have a gun and to go away. Police arrive a moment later and arrest her. The intruder is a 30-years-old and she was drunk. She faces charges with vandalism.

Robyn- The homeowner, a retired police officer, had a gun and was mentally prepared to use it to defend herself.  This was something that our homeowner had already envisioned as a possibility. She had done a good job of hardening her home.  The doors and windows were locked and secure, camera was installed and operating, phone was charged and in hand, gun was available and ready to use.  Hooray.

Robyn – I love the fact that she had installed a doorbell camera.  She could identify the person at the door without compromising her security..  I am not sure if the camera had a speaker but regardless she also issued clear verbal commands to leave.

Robyn – She did so many things right.  She called the police and got them on the way. A further benefit to calling 911 is that they can give you updates on the position of help on the way, you can keep them updated on the location of the threat and on your location.  Finally, it is recorded in case any legal action is required.

Robyn- She was frightened..and she is a retired police officer.  She did a great job of analyzing the threat as it was unfolding. I think it is important for us to mention how upset she was sharing how  close she was to shooting the woman. Perhaps she had drawn the red line at crossing the threshold of the house. She was prepared and stayed in control.  She had police on the way but they were not there yet. She was her own first responder. If we find ourselves in a similar situation this would give us a good mental map to follow.

Robyn- No shots fired.  I wish that every self defense scenario was like this one.  The preparations were sufficient to keep her potential attacker away.  Good job! Our second story happened North of Daytona Beach.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at work

You work in a pizza restaurant. It is almost time to close the store for the day. A man walks in and you look up. The customer wears a mask and before you know it he hit you with a wooden post. You duck and the post breaks on the counter. The stranger pulls out some scissors and tries to stab you. You draw your firearm and shoot him several times.

You call the police. The video shows the robber waiting outside and then attacking you. There are no other witnesses, and the police find your attacker behind the store wearing a clown mask.

Robyn- Our defender got a late start. There is a lot to do as you close a restaurant. You’re cleaning up from today and getting ready for tomorrow. No wonder the employee was paying attention to clean-up and prep rather than the stranger coming in the door.

Rob- So the first clue is that you’re getting hit with a fence post.

Robyn-I understand that the worker was probably anxious to get home, but if possible he should have waited to do clean-up until after the doors were secured.

Robyn- This is a situation where he had to earn his draw.  The attacker was already attacking him at close range before he defended himself.  This is where the skills I am working on this summer might have come in very handy.  Avoid getting hit, block and work for your counter movement

Robyn-Thank goodness that he was armed.  He was able to defend his life with the tool he had. He was mentally and physically prepared to do whatever to took to get home to his family.

Robyn-He stayed in the fight until it was over.  But when the threat no longer existed he stopped.

Robyn- He did a good job calling the police and letting them do their job.  They found the attacker behind the store.

Robyn- Our third story happened last week in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re at home?  

It is still dark outside when you hear someone in your basement. You tell your wife to call police and you grab your gun. You go downstairs and tell the intruder not to move. Police arrive a few minutes later.

The intruder is charged with second-degree burglary and the police think he is responsible for several other break-ins.

Your wife and children are unhurt.

Robyn- Wife and kids in the home. Do you shelter in place or investigate the noise in the basement?

Rob- Is there only one way up from the basement? How do I know there is only one intruder?

Robyn – That is one of the reasons that we have cameras in our house.  I can search my house via my phone. If you can see them you can give good information to the police and you can to a better job evaluating the threat and planning your defense.

Robyn- If you had not installed cameras, the first thing that popped into my mind was to barricade the basement door.  If there was indeed an intruder or intruders in my basement they could take any of the basement stuff they wanted but they were not allowed to hurt me or my family.  Single entry up a staircase through a door is relatively easy to defend. Let the police come investigate who is in the basement. My job is to keep them away from my family until the police arrive.  

Robyn-I like the team effort.  The wife called 911 to get the police on the way.  That freed her husband to protect the family.

Robyn- I would suggest getting set up in a defensible position and issuing verbal commands.  “The police are on the way.” “Get out of my house.” It would also be nice to illuminate them and or record them.  Many people can turn on lights remotely. Criminals do not want to be seen or filmed.

Robyn- I am glad that the husband had the gun and had it accessible at the time of the break-in   I am also glad that the wife had access to the phone and it was charged.

Robyn-I am not sure what people are thinking when they go off to investigate.  That is very dangerous. He held the intruder until the police arrived. He was lucky that it was a single intruder and that the intruder complied with his command.  This could have very easily turned out much different for the homeowner. I am glad that it worked out for him and his family. I would suggest letting the police do their job.  They can search, they can decide what to do with the criminals that they find. My job is to stay as safe as possible until they arrive.

Robyn- Police arrived in four minutes.  That is a very good response time but I imagine it felt like an eternity to the homeowner.

Exit-  Rob- I had a good time talking with you.  That wraps up this episode. Robyn, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Robyn- You can find me at Step by Step Gun Training in Naples Florida.  We offer custom training courses as well as group classes. Leave us a message on the Step by Step Facebook page.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Robyn-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network. We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

Episode 114 with David Cole

Can you protect innocent victims at home and on the street? Firearms instructor David Cole brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (13 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 114 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor David Cole with us as co-host.

David, I see where you’ve been competing with your concealed carry handgun and teaching Aikido.

David- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been working out the kinks competing with a new gun; getting students ready for testing at the dojo.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

David- We study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation because they were armed. What would you in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Atlanta, Georgia.  Here’s what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You’ve finished the dishes and are cleaning up when you hear a woman scream from the front of your home. You walk outside and see three teenagers beating a pregnant woman on the sidewalk in front of your house. One of the teens is hitting the pregnant woman with a handgun. You draw your firearm and point it at the attacker. “Stop! Drop the gun or I’ll drop you,” you shout.  The attacker drops the gun and all three teens run away.

The victim was a Dominos Pizza delivery driver. The three teenage attackers lured her to the house next door where they waited to rob her of her money and her car. EMTs took the victim to the hospital for observation. Police arrested and charged the teenagers, two boys and a girl, all 16 years old.

David- This is a case of a third party intervention, with an overall happy ending. Our victim was very fortunate that there was a good Samaritan nearby who was willing and able to come to her aid.

Rob- Our defender recognized an innocent victim.

David- A smart decision to respond with a gun, since the attack was 3 on 1…even if the attackers had been unarmed, there is still a disparity of force.

Rob- Should the defender have used a verbal warning? Was he already justified to use lethal force and kill all three attackers?

David- It’s easy to armchair quarterback, but the obvious answer is yes, he should have challenged…because it worked…in this case. But it might not always, and he was certainly justified in using lethal force due to the fact that it was 3 on 1, and there was a weapon involved. Also, I don’t know of any state which requires a challenge be issued prior to use of lethal force. But had the attackers been more committed in carrying out the assault, he might have placed himself at an even greater disadvantage by giving the bad guys that warning, and the resulting time to act first.

David- Our second story happened last week near Richmond, Virginia.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home?

It is the afternoon when you hear someone trying to break into your basement door. You get your gun. The intruder walks up onto your back porch and tries to open your back door. The door is locked. You shout for the stranger to go away and that you are armed. The man picks up a retaining wall stone and breaks the glass of your back door. Then he reaches inside to unlock the door. Your two daughters are inside behind you. You shoot your invader. Now he runs and you call police.

EMTs take him to the hospital. Police report that the intruder met your daughter online and he lives in another country.

David- This mom protected her family. Well done.

Rob- Should she have retreated and called the police?

David- She certainly could have, but there was no way that this was going to end well. He had pursued this girl in online communications for months, despite having been told to stop. He flew halfway around the world, and purchased a knife, pepper spray, and duct tape before going to the girl’s house. I believe that this family was aware that this guy was a problem, and fortunately they were prepared. Had they not been, it could have turned into the stuff of horror movies.

Rob- 22 caliber

David- It worked..this time. Clearly, a centerfire caliber is better, but the gun you have and the gun you can shoot is still better than nothing.

Rob- What do you suggest for your students?

David- As I mentioned, a centerfire caliber is the best choice for most people; .380 as a minimum, and on up from there. It may take a little more training to become proficient, but when you can save your daughter from that sort of fate, wouldn’t that be worth it?

(another link with more detail on the story: https://wtvr.com/2018/06/25/troy-skinner-arrest/ )

David- Our third story happened last week outside Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re getting a cup of coffee?  

It is early in the morning. You pull into a convenience store for gas and a cup of coffee. You’re walking to the register when you see the reaction on the clerk’s face. You turn around and see a man wearing a hoodie and a black mask over his face. He has a gun in his hand. The clerk runs out the back of the store. You draw your gun and step to the side. The thief turns around and runs. He’d robbed another store a half hour earlier.

David- Third party again…although the customer easily could have become the victim had the situation continued.

Rob- This is one of those common events that are rarely covered in the news. The defender didn’t have to fire his gun.

David- He had his gun on him. Being able to present in in time meant that he did NOT have to press the trigger.

Rob- Do you talk about a situation like this with your students?

David- I think that what probably gave the customer time to act more quickly than the robber could react was due to awareness. It sounds like the customer had his head up and recognized what was going on, and took decisive action before the robber even realized he was there.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. David, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

David- My training website is Aegis Solutions  on Facebook, and I’m also at BlackManWithAGun.com

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

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Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 113 with Elizabeth Hautman

Can you protect innocent victims at home, at work, and on the street? Firearms instructor Elizabeth Hautman brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (18 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 113 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Elizabeth Hautman with us as co-host.

Hi, Elizabeth.  How have you been?

Elizabeth- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been running a couple classes a week.

Rob-Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Elizabeth- We study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation because they were armed. What would you do in their place?

Our first story took place last week near Atlanta, Georgia.  Here’s what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed as you buy groceries?  

You’re shopping with your wife after work. Lots of people are picking up supplies for the Father’s Day weekend. Three men approach you as you walk to your car. They are armed. You’re being robbed. You carry concealed. You and your wife run behind your car. You present your firearm and shoot all three robbers. They shoot back, at least for a while. Soon, one of the robbers runs away. One robber drops to the pavement. The third crawls back inside the store.

You and your wife are shaken, but not shot. Your car isn’t so lucky. You call the police.

The police pick up the two robbers and take them to local hospitals. That is where they arrest the third robber who drove away.

Elizabeth- I notice that our defender was alert. His head was probably out of his phone. He noticed that three men with guns walking up behind him was unusual and he acted on that clue. That is what let him with against three attackers.

Rob- Was this a robbery or a carjacking?

Elizabeth- Maybe. We don’t know if the robbers told him what they wanted, or if he noticed them as they approached. It sounds like the first thing the good guys did is move, and that changed everything.

Rob- What do you mean?

Elizabeth- Most couples would stand there frozen. They would wonder who is going to act first. This couple got behind their car. That kept the bad guys from grabbing them. It limited how many of the robbers could approach them at one time. It also absorbed some of the bullets in the gunfight that followed.

Rob- I see that.

Elizabeth- Moving changed the entire dynamic of the event.

The robbers had a plan. The victims would have their eyes down in their phones or be busy loading their groceries. The robbers would quickly confront them and take their money and keys. The victims would never have time to form a plan and act on it.

Instead, the victims moved. Now it was the robbers who had to react to an armed defender. The defenders had cover and the robbers were out in the open in the lane of traffic. The fact that the wife knew to move made this defense possible. If possible, they could move around opposite ends of the car so that the robbers wouldn’t know who to chase, but the important thing to do is to move and do something.

Rob- I thought you were going to say the armed defender shot well.

Elizabeth- He might have, but he made the shooting part much more effective because he was behind his car rather than out in the open. It is more important to avoid getting shot than to be a good shot. These defenders did both.

Rob- Anything else you notice?

Elizabeth- Most armed robberies have multiple attackers, so this isn’t that unusual. I wish both defenders were armed and trained. That would have made their attackers run away sooner and made this husband and wife even safer.

Our second story happened last week east of Orlando in Seminole County, Florida.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home in the afternoon?   

You are at home with your mom when you hear someone break into your home. You both run upstairs and hide in your bedroom. You grab your gun and retreat into a corner. A stranger opens your bedroom door and you shoot him. He runs. Now you call police. You and your mom are frightened but unharmed.

The police arrest the wounded robber at a nearby gas station. They also arrest two of his accomplices. Both are being charged with murder after their partner died at the hospital.

Elizabeth- See, three attackers again. I’m glad the door was locked so the robbers had to break in. That gives you time to act before the robbers are on top of you.

Rob- Good point. The defenders knew how to use the time they had.

Elizabeth- The defender was a young woman who had some firearms training. It isn’t clear if she pulled her mom into her room where she had her gun, or if the young woman was armed at home and went to her mom’s room to defend them both. Either plan would work.

Rob- She made the robbers come to her.

Elizabeth- She thought about this before it happened. She made the bad guys step around the corner and open her bedroom door. That means she got a turn to defend herself before the robbers got a chance to attack either her or her mom. A good plan means you have an opportunity to act and the bad guys have to react rather than hurt you.  

Rob- What else did you notice.

Elizabeth- I want my students to take care of first things first. Get your defensive tools, a gun and a phone. Gather your loved ones and go someplace safe. Then, get help on the way. Maybe mom was calling the police once they were safely in their bedroom. That isn’t the sort of thing that reporters think to ask. Also, the daughter didn’t chase the robbers. She let the police do that. Good for her.

Our third story happened last week in McComb, Mississippi.

Rob- First this message.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at work?

You work in a convenience store. It is after dark. You hear some noise from the backroom and turn around. The other night clerk is a young woman. She is being pushed back into the store by a man holding a gun to her head. The robber pushes her into the store and waves his gun at both of you.

You’re armed. You wait for a moment and then draw your own handgun. You shoot the robber. He shoots back and you shoot again. Now he runs out the front of the store. You lock the front door and call police. Neither of you are hurt, but you’re both very upset.

The robber looks like the same man who robbed your gas station last week. This time you were armed. The police find the dead robber across the street. They examine the surveillance video, just as they did last week. There are no charges against you.

Elizabeth- Store clerks carry out the trash late at night when there are not many customers around. Criminals wait in the dark near the dumpster so they can sneak in the back entrance. Both clerks needed to be armed..and maybe to have bright lights they could turn on at the back of the store when they went outside.

Rob- I carry the trash out in the dark at least once a week before pick-up day.

Elizabeth- Lots of us do, and it is predictable. Go armed when you go outside at night. The guys with the best plan win, so better yet, carry the trash out while it is still light outside.

Rob- What else did you notice.

Elizabeth- One of the defenders was armed. That is an improvement from last week when they were both disarmed. I hope the defender had the gun on him rather than having it behind the counter. The clerk could have been working on the displays in the middle of the store when the robber came in using the other clerk as a hostage. You don’t have a gun if it is out of reach.

Rob- A lot of gun owners pretend they have a gun for defense, but the gun is out of reach. Do you talk about that with your students?

Elizabeth- That is one of the first things we talk about. Most of them get it.

Both of the store employees did the right thing when they waited their turn to defend themselves. We don’t know how the female clerk was able to move away from the robber. It is important to think about that ahead of time.

I want my students to practice enough so they know how much time and distance they need to use their firearm effectively. That way they can recognize it when the robber gives them the time they need.

Rob- It sounds like the clerk shot once and then stopped. That is when the robber shot back.

Elizabeth- I noticed that. We want to avoid a gunfight where both sides shoot their guns. Practice so that your first shots hit the target. That give you an advantage because you are not shot and your attacker is. Keep shooting until the attacker stops threatening you.

Rob- Anything else?

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Elizabeth, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Elizabeth- I instruct in Colorado Springs.  I teach small classes at my private range in Black Forest.  Students can contact me at Colorado Boots Firearms Instruction.

Rob- Some of you have shared the articles we post on the podcast facebook page.  You can also leave us a message and share your thoughts, either in public or in private.

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Episode 112 with Ben Branam

Can you protect innocent victims at home, at work, and on the street? Firearms instructor Ben Branam brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (14 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 112 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse and Ben Branam is our co-host. Ben, how have you been?

Ben- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been busy moving into a new house and teaching classes.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Ben- We study three recent examples of armed defense. These gun owners survived a life threatening situation because they were armed. Ask yourself what you would do in their place.

Our first story took place last week in Jacksonville, Florida.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed as you go shopping?  

You’re sitting in your car at Walmart when a man runs up and pulls open your driver’s side door. He has a knife in his hands and tells you to get out of your car. You put up your hands and are cut on your hands and arms several times. You slide toward the passenger side, and pull your gun from under the seat. Now your attacker runs away.

The attacker runs to a car waiting in a nearby drive-through lane. This time the woman in the car slides out of the car and grabs her gun from under the seat. Again, the criminal runs away.

Police arrest the criminal as he hid in a nearby bathroom. The criminal had robbed the Walmart a minute before the first assault.

Ben- lucky versus good practice

Ben- Have a gun.

Ben- Pogo. lock your car doors. Practice drawing your firearm when you’re seated.

Our second story happened last week in Memphis, Tennessee.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you arrive home?

You drive up to your house and notice that the door is open. You hear your dog barking. You walk inside and see two young men. They see you and pull handguns from their pockets. You dive for your front closet and take out a rifle. It is loaded and your shoot both of your attackers. Now you back out of the house and call police. You show the police your surveillance tapes. That shows the break in and you defending yourself.

Both robbers die at the scene.

Ben- This homeowner was lucky rather than smart.

Rob- What do you tell your students to do?

Ben- He had a video system. Add a simple alarm system to it. That way he would have known not to enter his home.

Rob- Call the police. Let them chase the bad guys.

Rob- So avoid the avoidable gun fight so you don’t get shot.

Ben- I am glad he had a rifle for self-defense. That works.

Ben- Our third story happened last week in Cape Coral, FloridaGive a listen at http://www.armedlutheran.us/

Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re at work?

You work at a roofing company. One of the employees is upset. There is an argument in the front office and you walk over to see what is going on.  The employee threatens you and says he’s going to get even. He storms out of the building. You have other employees outside. You follow him. The angry employee grabs a gun from his truck. You tell him to put the gun down. He points the gun at you. You are carrying concealed. You draw and shoot your attacker. You go back into the building and call police and EMTs.

The police take your attacker to the hospital. You show police your security video. They identify the employee as a convicted felon, so he shouldn’t have had a gun in the first place. Your attacker faces charges of possession of a weapon by a convicted felon and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

Ben- This time the defender had a gun on him.

Ben- He could have locked the office doors, but that would have left the people in the parking lot on their own to face an armed attacker.

Exit- Rob- That wraps up this episode. Ben, thank you for helping us today. Where can we learn more about you?

Ben- You can find me at Modern Self Protection.com.  I live in San Antonio, and most of my classes are in central Texas.  I teach armed self-defense and church security. Listeners can see my class schedule at my website, and they can also listen to my podcast Modern Self-Protection.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

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Episode 111 with Amanda Suffecool

Can you protect innocent victims at home, at work, and on the street? Firearms instructor Amanda Suffecool brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (15 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 111 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Amanda Suffecool with us as co-host.

Hi, Amanda.  How have you been?

Amanda- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been busy training and building houses.   We have held a woman’s day on the range this past weekend,  and I have just been asked to speak at the Heller-ten event in DC on the 10th anniversary of the Heller vs DC decision.    So – as they say, what have you been up to… nothing much. What about you – Rob

Rob- I practiced at the range, and received an order of ammunition for a training class I’m taking. Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Amanda- We study three recent examples of armed defense.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation because they were armed. What should we do in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.  Here’s what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at a restaurant?  

You walk out of a restaurant when you hear shots coming from inside. The restaurant is posted as a gun-free zone, so you left your gun in your car. You run back and grab your handgun. You see people streaming out of the building and you work your way upstream looking for the problem. You see injured people lying on the ground. You shout asking, “Where is the shooter,” and people point out the side door. You follow them.

You see a man standing in the parking lot with a gun in his hands. You yell for him to drop the gun. He turns toward you and fires. You shoot back. The attacker drops to the ground. You look around and see another civilian with a gun pointed at the attacker. You nod to him and step back.

Then you remember that your holser is in your car. You stay at the scene. Police arrive a few minutes later.

Amanda- had a gun (wasn’t on him, but he had one.) This is why gun free zones are such an issue with pro 2A folks

Amanda- The defender took a risk – one that you would want someone to do if you were one of the injured,  but one that is a concern on its own. He ran toward the problem

Amanda- More than one defender. When the first defender stopped shooting, the second defender lowered his gun. They were both reticent to shoot, and that is exactly the attitude we want.

Amanda- Our second story happened last week in Worcester, (woo’-ster) Massachusetts.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at work?   

You’re working behind the counter at a small market. It is 8:40 in the evening. You hear a lady scream and look up. A man is standing behind the woman and has a knife at her throat. The attacker says this is a robbery. You see the fear in the woman’s face and put your hand on your gun. The woman drops to the ground. You draw and shoot the attacker three times. He runs from the store and you call police.

The police arrest the attacker outside your store.

Amanda- He didn’t wait until the man with the knife was close to him.  But at the same time – it’s was obvious that the guy with a knife was a threat.  

Amanda- This clerk honored the witnesses. He defended an innocent person..and then stopped shooting.

Amanda- Our third story happened last week in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at home?  

It is almost 11 at night. You hear a car horn and hear your mom yell from the front of your home. She is driving behind your home and still honking her car horn. You grab your gun and open the back door. You see a man pointing a gun at your mom. He points his gun at you and fires. You shoot back. The robbers run and you call police.

Police said the teens may have been involved in two other overnight armed robberies.

Amanda- In all three cases, the defenders were involved while defending a third party of a family member.

Rob- It happens.

Amanda- It happens, and we have to think about it ahead of time.

Amanda- The first rule of a gun fight is have a gun. Our defender did not have time to go outside, assess the situation, and then go get his gun. He had his tools on him.

Rob- and he used them.

Amanda- Unfortunately, he missed. 11 at night, low light, hard to see the sights. Perhaps its the length of the shot – a shot from your back door to the parking lot.

Rob- Do you teach that to your students?

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Amanda, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Amanda- You can find me at eye on the target radio radio. I have two radio programs and I instruct on the weekends.

Rob- Thank you for inviting me on your show, Amanda. It is a call in show so you can talk to her on Sunday evening.

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Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back in two weeks with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.