Episode 11 with Tatiana Whitlock
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Introduction- Welcome to episode 11 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. I’m Rob Morse with self-defense instructor Tatiana Whitlock. Hi, Tatiana.
Tatiana- Hi, Rob. Together, we report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense each week.
Tatiana- Our first example took place in Fresno, California.
First story- That’s where a young man stopped at a gas station on his way to work. He saw an older man throwing things at passing cars and shouting at other customers. The crazy person started to approach his car and the younger man got out to ask him what was the matter. That is when the young man saw that the crazy man had a knife.
Our driver got back in his car only seconds before the stranger stabbed the car door. The young man presented his legally concealed firearm and pointed his gun at the attacker. The attacker ran away. The attacker and his knife were picked up by police a few hundred yards down the street. He was arrested and tested for Methamphetamine.
Tatiana-
-Question of appropriate response?
-Should he have engaged at all? Should he have asked for store manager support? **REMEMBER – ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT IS DUTY BOUND TO ENGAGE**
**BE MINDFUL OF GOOD SAMARITAN**
-Fortunately, he was able to get to his vehicle while the act of being attacked presented his pistol.
He was being attacked. This was NOT brandishing. Presenting the pistol had the desired result with NO shots fired.
CONSIDER HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND IN AND AROUND VEHICLES
TRAINING OPTIONS ARE OUT THERE
GAIN some experience in a training program to learn the proper and SAFE way to draw your handgun from concealment in a seated position.
Second Story- Our next story takes place in Dayton, Ohio. A female clerk in a tanning salon watched a customer pull out his money to buy a small ring from the jewelry display. The clerk opened her cash drawer to make change. That is when the customer said, “I don’t want any trouble, just give me all the money.”
The clerk presented the firearm she keeps behind the counter and pointed it at the criminal. He ran.
Police examined the surveillance video. The thief robbed five stores that month, and three stores that same day.
Was the clerk justified to use deadly force?
Tatiana- We really need more information to make that determination correctly. Was the robber armed? Did he display a weapon?
Did the clerk fear for her life of those of her patrons based on his behavior, presentation of a weapon, or the delivery of the demand?
-REMEMBER – every THING is replaceable. YOU are not. Insurance exists for a reason. If your life is not in danger then being an EXCELLENT witness is the best weapon there is.
-This speaks to a common training error that we see from students transitioning out of the square range and and into scenario based training exercises.
-The difference between bullseye practice and contextual real life training is all in learning how to process and make sound decisions based on what is going on around you. Square range for example = every time the gun is drawn it is going to be shot.
Simunitions or UTM training requires you to determine if the gun even the right solution to the problem at hand. HIGHLY recommend gaining some experience in a force on force program with an emphasis on threat assessment and critical decision making skills.
-Fortunately for all involved the clerk stayed in control despite the stressful nature of the experience and the crook made the good decision NOT to test her resolve.
Third story- A gun owner in Spokane first heard the alarming news from his son. His son had just seen a stranger armed with a metal pole climb into their neighbor’s back yard. The gun owner got his gun and walked next door. The stranger was yelling and kicking at the neighbor’s back door. The neighbor and her children were in the home at the time.
The man with the pole advanced toward the gun owner and his son and threatened to kill them. The stranger swung the metal pole at the gun owner. The gun owner presented his firearm and ordered the attacker to drop the pole. The attacker sat on the lawn until police arrived.
Rob- When I read the several news stories about this incident, the attacker sounded both agitated and confused.
Tatiana- We say don’t get involved, but this man knew his neighbor.
All three stories were defensive gun use without any shots fired. That shows good restraint under stress. Used correctly, by an individual with a cool head, the gun can effectively control a situation without shots being fired.
Exit- That wraps up this episode. Tatiana, thank you for helping me today. Where can our listeners learn more about you?
Tatiana- They can contact me at http://tatianawhitlock.com/ On Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/tatiana.whitlock/ And at thesear.com and On Target Magazine.
Rob- Before we close, I want to mention that Tatiana has a free video about firearms safety and storing firearms safely in your home with children. The link is in our show notes.
Once our listeners have watched Tatiana’s video, I hope they will also give us a review on Itunes. We post transcripts and links to these stories on our web page at self defense gun stories dot com,
I’m Rob Morse. Please join us next week for more Self-Defense Gun Stories.
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