Episode 61 with David Cole

Welcome to episode 61 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. Firearms instructor David Cole joins us this week. Together, we report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they prepared? How would you do in their situation?

Introduction- Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  Welcome to episode 61 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This show is for  people who think they might want a firearm for self-defense, and those who already have one.  We’re joined this week by self-defense instructor David Cole.

Hi, David.  How have you been?

David- Hi, Rob.  Seems like just yesterday we were hanging out at the NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits in Atlanta. It sure was a great show this year.

Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze three examples of armed civilian defense.  We hope you use these reports as part of your exercise program.. to exercise your imagination today so you can defend the people you care about tomorrow.  Please leave us a message on our facebook page with your questions or comments.

David- Our first story took place last week in Jacksonville, Florida.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed when you arrive home?  You return home at about 10 in the morning.  Unfortunately, a robber is waiting for you.  He follows you to the door and forces his way inside.  He then tries to take your purse and you phone.  You fight.  You grab your handgun and shoot your attacker.  He runs from your home.  You slam the door and call the police.  The police arrest your attacker when he called for medical attention.

David- Fortunately, our good citizen was prepared…she had a gun handy and was ready to use it.

Rob-  We can’t tell how she got her gun.  What do you tell your students?

David- She also did the right thing by calling 911 and reporting the incident.

David- Our second story happened last week in Memphis, Tennessee.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at work late at night.  You work at a liquor store.  It is never completely safe.  Yesterday, the police visited your store to warn you about a series of liquor store robberies in the area.  It is 11 at night when a man walks in wearing a ski mask.  It isn’t cold outside.  The masked man presents a gun and starts yelling at you to get down on the floor.  You draw your pistol and shoot your attacker several times.  You back away and call police.  No one else was injured.  The FBI links the attacker to eight other robberies.

David- This one was kind of obvious, but sometimes it can be difficult to see trouble coming. But a guy in a ski mask in a liquor store at 11 PM is most likely not your friend.

Rob- Talk about a risky occupation.  The police told him to be ready..and he was.

David- The clerk was prepared with a gun of his own, and did what he had to do to defend himself.

Rob- Should we do what a criminal demands?

David- That’s a tough call, and the only 100% correct answer is “it depends.” But compliance doesn’t increase our chances of going home unhurt. There are plenty of examples of robberies where the victim gave the robber what they demanded, and were shot anyway.  My personal opinion is that you are taking a big chance when you count on mercy from someone willing to threaten your life for your purse or wallet.

David- Our third story happened last week in Arlington, Texas.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you visit a sports bar?  You’re sitting in a sports bar with family and friends when you hear the yelling.  A stranger is yelling at everyone.  The restaurant manager goes over to talk the the man.  The stranger is upset, and the manager is trying to calm him down.  The stranger yells louder, then he pulls a gun from his pocket and shoots the manager.  You tell your wife to get on the floor.  You crouch down and draw your own firearm.  People are running wildly.  The attacker is shooting towards people as they run for the front door.  The crowd thins for a second and you take your shot.  The attacker stops shooting.  You and your family leave the scene, but you don’t go far.  You know you have to talk to police.  They say the attacker had two guns and two knives on him.  The manager died at the scene..along with the attacker.  The only other injury was one customer he cut himself on the broken glass as he left.

David-  This one had the potential to be much, much worse..but for a good guy with a gun. And it seems like this week’s theme could easily be Jeff Cooper’s first rule of gunfighting: “Have a gun.”

Rob-

David- Laws regarding carry in bars vary from state to state

Exit- Rob- That wraps up this episode. David, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

David- Our listeners can find me at

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

David-  If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network.  We create this podcast under a creative commons license, so please share them with a friend, and give us a rating on I-Tunes.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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