Episode 93 with David Cole

Instructor David Cole joins us this week with three new self-defense stories. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they armed with tools and training? How would you react in their situation? (16 minutes)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 93 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm.. and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. Firearms instructor David Cole is our co-host this week. Hi, David.  How have you been?

David- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been…a little chilly.

Rob- One of our listeners asked us to post information about the type of firearms used in these examples. That is a great idea, and we will include that information when we can. David, please introduce our podcast.

David- Each week we discuss three recent examples of armed defense. Our first story took place last week in Putnam County, West Virginia. Here is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You’re a grandmother and a widow. You live alone. You’re asleep in bed.  It is after midnight when you hear someone trying to pry open your bedroom window. You walk to your dresser and grab your gun. You pull open the blinds and point your gun at the attempted robber. The robber falls over. You see him scramble to his feet and run away. You call police.

David- Sounds like this criminal was lucky to escape. We certainly can’t fault this woman’s mindset…she was definitely ready to do business.

Rob- She didn’t ignore the problem and hope it would go away. It looks like she kept her gun in a dresser drawer. Is that a good idea if she was a grandma with grandkids?

David- While she might want to consider different storage options for her firearms (check out the video) it was great that she challenged the suspect verbally. She didn’t have to kill anyone, and this would prevent a tragedy in a case of mistaken identity. A good flashlight could help, too. It’s also good that she called police, even though the suspect ran away.

Rob- The intruder was only feet away when she surprised him.

Rob- Do you talk about this situation with your students?

David- Our second story happened last week in Akron, Ohio.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at work?   

You’re a pharmacist. You own and operate your own store. It is 9 in the morning and you unlock your front door.  You’re behind the counter when you see three men dressed in black rush inside. Two of them jump over your counter. They pull out bags and start grabbing drugs. One of them shouts for you not to move and reaches for his pocket. So do you. You shoot at the two attackers closest to you. The three men run from the store. You call police.

You give your address and a description of the get-away car. Police arrest one man when he goes to the hospital for treatment of gunshot wounds.

David- Good job in a difficult situation…three on one. Good thing he had a gun handy.

Rob- People sore guns lots of places. The company safe or the cash drawer wouldn’t have worked if there were already guns pointed at you.

David- It would be easy to say that it would be better had he acted before two of them got behind the counter, but it sounds like it happened very fast. He tried cooperating until he felt they may try to harm him, but then acted decisively.

Rob- We talk about tactical patience. That means you wait until you have time to act.  That assumes you’ve practiced so you know how much time you need. Did our defender simply run out of options so he went for it against three robbers?

David- Our third story happened last week in Chicago, Illinois.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when walking on the street?

It is the day after Christmas. You walk out of a store on the southside of Chicago.  It is a little after 6pm, and it is already dark and cold. A man walks up to you. He pulls a gun out of his jacket pocket and tells you to hand it over. You reach into your pants pocket and grab your wallet. Your wallet contains your Illinois Firearms Owners Identification Card. It also contains your Concealed Carry License. You’re armed.

You hand the robber your wallet. You draw your gun and shoot your attacker in the chest. The attacker drops his gun, and you step back inside the store to call police.

David-  This is a tough one, mostly for the decision the citizen had to make. Good thing he was prepared to make it.

Rob- Why was this a hard decision?

David- On one hand, the robber had the wallet, and some might say it is over at that point, and you should just let him leave. On the other hand, the news story doesn’t indicate that the robber had shown any inclination to leave, although he had pulled a gun on his intended victim. Personally, I would not trust that person not to harm me, and it appears our victim felt the same. I don’t blame him.

Rob- We’re depending on a robber to be honest and keep his part of the bargain. Is that a good plan?

David- We’re hearing more self defense gun stories out of Chicago these days. That’s good.

Rob- Giving the robber the wallet was a distraction. What do your students have to learn before they can quickly and confidently present a loaded firearm from inside a winter coat?

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. David, thank you for helping us today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

David- Our listeners can find me at Black Man With A Gun and on my Aegis Solutions Facebook page.

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David-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network.  

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Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.