Episode 78 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 78. Instructor Tony Simon joins us this week with three new self-defense stories. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they armed with tools and training? How would you react in their situation? (18 minutes)

Rob- Introduction- I’m Rob Morse and welcome to episode 78 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who think they might want a firearm.. and those who already have one.  We’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?

Tony- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been busy planning Diversity Shoots in New Jersey, volunteering at NRA Range Day as a shotgun instructor and introducing a new shooting event, The Minuteman Challenge.

Rob- I know you’ve been to the range to get in some practice of your own.

Tony- I started a Minute Man League.

Rob-  I went to the range and got in some life fire presentations.

Tony- Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze three examples of armed civilian defense.  We hope you exercise your imagination today so you can defend the people you care about tomorrow.  Please leave us a message on our facebook page with your questions or comments.

Tony- Our first story took place last week in Elyria, Ohio.

Rob- First Story- Are you armed at home?   

You’re at home with two of your teenage daughters.  It is after dark on a weekday.  Your older daughter screams when she sees a stranger enter the home and stand next to your younger daugher.  There is something about that scream.  You grab your gun and run towards that area of the house.  You see your oldest daughter chasing a stranger.  You follow them out the front door and call your daughter back inside.  Then you try to call the police.  You have to catch your breath first..and to put away your gun.

Tony- Another reason to carry in a holster, Pants On Gun On. She heard the scream that told her immediately she needed to protect her family. There is very little time to come up with a plan during an emergency. Implementing the plan that you have may be all that you can do to save a life.

Rob-  So you’ll run with what you know?

Tony- Yep.  She got that right.

Rob- What should our listeners do better?

Tony- She followed the bad guy out of the house and pursued him after he was no longer a threat. Try not to do that, it could get you hurt or worse if he has accomplices outside that you are unaware of or he decides to fight you because you won’t let him get away.

Rob-  Our armed mom chased her 17 year old daughter outside.  Sounds like you should share your plans with your family.

Tony- Our second story happened last week in Orlando, Florida.

Rob- Second Story- Are you armed when you cut the grass?

You are mowing the lawn for one of your customers.  You maintain several houses in the area.  Three men stop their car as they drive by after noon.  They git out of their vehicle.  They walk up to you, and one of the strangers has a gun drawn.  You’re being robbed.  They demand your wallet, your phone, and your keys.  You present your firearm and shoot at the gunman nearest you.  All three men run.  Two of them drive away.  One runs through the neighborhood.  You and the neighbors call police.  None of the men show up at the hospital for treatment.

Tony- He was ambushed by multiple armed attackers and was correct in defending his life. Some people would say that he should give them whatever they want and they will go away. That theory has you depending on receiving mercy from the merciless and it could cost you your life without a struggle.

Rob- He was wearing a gun in the the rain and heat and sun of central Florida in the summer time.

Tony- He was wearing a gun while doing something as mundane as cutting the grass in the suburbs. There are no “safe places or times”, bad guys don’t have hours of operation or fixed locations. They are open 24/7 at a location near you.

Rob- Makes my excuses for not carrying look pretty pale.

Tony- You have no idea why someone will pick you but you should have the equipment, will and attitude to defend yourself.

Rob-  What would you tell your students to do in such a situation?

Tony- Shoot, move, call the police.  It sounds like our good guy did that.

Rob- Where can your students learn and practice shooting, moving, and calling the police?

Rob- Is there more?

Tony- Nope that does it?

Rob- Where are we headed next?

Tony- We’re headed back home to Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Rob- but first this message.

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Rob- Third story- Do you have a gun nearby when you’re sleeping at home?  

You’re sleeping at home with your wife and two children.  You hear something that sounds like an animal clawing at the house.  You wake up your wife.  It doesn’t sound right, so she calls the police while you grab your gun and check on the kids.  Now you hear the sound coming from the back of the house.  You see someone outside.  As you approach your back door, you see that the stranger has a gun in his hand.

You shoot and the burglar runs away.  Police find two guns outside and are looking for the burglar’s accomplice.

Tony-  Know what you know without caring about how you know.

Rob- Say that again?

Tony- We talk ourselves into trouble.  I’m never robbed, so that sound can’t be someone breaking into my house.  Yes, it can.  Get out of bed, get your gun, call the police, and get your children.

Rob- It wasn’t a dream, or if it was, call the police anyway.

Tony- Exactly.  They get called for strange sounds every day.  It is their job.

This was also a textbook reason for Pajamas on Gun On. The bad guy was in the door with a gun in his hand. There were no timeouts left on the clock. It was go time, no formulating a plan, no time to practice your favorite range drill.

Rob- We won’t have a warning and time to warm up.

Tony- You must have knowledge of your defensive skills. Can you operate your gun, can you shoot your gun accurately without several practice shots. Does your gun even work? Does you defensive ammo have a track record of being a fight stopper or is it a new ammo that has lots of cool advertising online and in magazines but no history of use by LEO or armed citizens.

Tony- All of the stories in this week’s episode were about civilians that had their self defense firearm on their person or beside them when it was needed. POGO Pants On, Gun On shouldn’t be a cute saying that your favorite self defense podcasts use, it should be your self defense strategy.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony-  I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone. I’m also at SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.  My classes are listed at BlackBagResources.com

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-   We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 73 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 73. Instructor Tony Simon joins us this week with three new self-defense stories. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they armed with tools and knowledge? How would you react in their situation? (17 minutes)

Rob- Introduction- I’m Rob Morse and welcome to episode 73 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who think they might want a firearm.. and those who already have one.  We’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?

 

Tony- Hi, Rob.  We had the diversity shoot last week.

Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze three examples of armed civilian defense.  We hope you use these reports as part of your exercise program.. to use your imagination today so you can defend the people you care about tomorrow.  Please leave us a message on our facebook page with your questions or comments.

Tony- Our first story took place last week in Marietta, Georgia.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

It’s a few hours after midnight when someone knocks at your door.  He asks to speak to your husband.  You say your husband isn’t home.  That is when the intruder pushes his way through your front door.  You yell for him to leave, but he doesn’t.  You step back toward your bedroom and grab your gun.  Your three children are in the back of the house so you move toward the intruder.  You shoot him.  He moves back toward the front door, the way he came.  You retreat and call police.

Your husband arrives a few minutes later..as do the police.

Tony- She did what needed to be done to save her children from being hurt by a threat in her home. She shot the bad guy, called the police and she isn’t going to be charged with a crime because she was able to articulate the threat that she faced to the police.

Rob- It isn’t unusual to be attacked in your own home.  She must have thought about defending her family before it happened in order to react so quickly.

Tony- Have a plan on how you will handle an emergency, be it a fire, a car accident or a home defense situation. Have that plan before the it happens.  That will cut down on the time it takes for you to start solving that problem.

Rob- Where do your students learn about this?

Tony- We teach having a plan in all of our classes from beginner class to our more advanced classes. I want students to leave any level of instruction knowing how to operate their firearm and to know they must be mentally prepared to use their firearm defensively if they need to.

Rob- What would your students do in this situation?

Tony- Any question from a stranger in the middle of the night can be answered through a locked door. These people were looking for her husband, her husband wasn’t home, she could tell them that through the door and not have compromised her security. If someone is knocking on your door after midnight you should have a means of protecting yourself from what might be on the other side. P.O.G.O. Pajamas On Gun On.

Rob- I’m imagining how slowly I think in the middle of the night.  We need a plan because we won’t be thinking clearly if someone knocks on our door in the middle of the night.  Our plan is to be armed and have our phone, turn on the outside lights, and talk to our visitor through the locked door.  There are some new camera doorbells that will let us talk to a visitor from our cell phone.

Tony- Now that is a plan.  Our second story happened last week in Waco, Texas.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at work in the evening?

You work at a smoke shop and it’s almost midnight.  A customer walks in wearing a ski mask.  It is the middle of the summer, so that is a clue.  The robber also has a gun in his hand and demands your money.  You draw your firearm and shoot the robber several times.  The rubber runs, and no one else in the store is injured.

You call the police.

Tony- An easier example of a self defense shooting is hard to find. It like a Hollywood script. A bad guy enters wearing a ski mask and carrying a gun, at midnight, in Waco TX. in July. The criminal walks in looking like every bad guy target in every gun range in the country!

Rob- Are some of your students store clerks and business owners?

Tony- We have had students from many different walks of life. Students have been tradesmen, law enforcement, military, doctors and lawyers.

Rob- So you teach them how to “interview” a customer?

Tony- We tell people that they must pay attention to people and pick up on visual cues that people give off. Everyone has this ability but polite society has helped dull that ability by convincing people to be politically correct. It’s ok to look at someone and think “ He doesn’t look “right”, something isn’t right with him” and you move away from them.  You’re avoiding confrontation.  You’re giving yourself time to think and to start planning how you may have to handle contact with this person. This bad guy made it very easy to determine his intentions.

Rob- What should one of your students have done in this situation?

Tony- Move to the side.  Move behind cover or concealment if possible, draw and fire at the bad guy until he stops or goes away. Reload, lock the door, call the police.

Tony- Our third story happened last week in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed in your car?  

You’re a 72 year old man.  A young woman you know from the neighborhood asks you for a ride to her apartment to pick up some clothes.  You give her a ride, and as she asks you to stop the car, two men come out from behind the building.  One of these two men has a gun.  They demand your wallet.  They hit you in the head.  You grab your gun and shoot the closest attacker.

Both men run to a waiting car and drive away.

You call police.  It turns out your passenger has a long criminal record, as do her two accomplices.

Tony- The senior citizen brought his “A” game to a fight for his life. He was attacked but he had an option the bad guys didn’t expect. He used his firearm effectively against multiple attackers and won the fight for his life.

Rob- I think this robbery happened in broad daylight.  That is another reason to be off-guard.

Tony- Safety and security are feelings not facts. There is no completely safe place and no there is no safe time. Bad guys don’t have set working hours, they work 7 days a week 24 hours a day.  Oh and DON’T GIVE STRANGERS RIDES!

Rob-  The news story says the victim was agitated after the attack.

Tony- That is normal. He was physically attacked by two men after giving a lady a ride. He had to use his firearm to stop a disparity of force attack that could have cost him his life. The shock of being attacked and the adrenaline dump after the fight could cause people to faint, have heart attacks or other health issues.

Rob- What would you want your students to do it this situation.

Tony- Hopefully my students won’t put themselves in that situation but if they did they would have their windows up and doors locked if the car was moving. They should carry their firearm on them because it has to be within reach to be useful.

Rob- I’ve fired a gun from inside a vehicle.  The noise will surprise you.

Tony- Firing a gun inside an enclosure without ear protection is disconcerting to say the least. You must fight when your life depends on it and everything else becomes secondary.

Rob- What else did this man do right?

Tony- He was surprised, outnumbered and injured.  He didn’t give up.  He got his gun.  He pointed it at the attacker that was the greatest threat.  He pulled the trigger until the threat stopped.  He looked for other threats.  Then, and this is important too, the intended victim stopped shooting when the threats went away.

Rob- And your students learn to do that?

Tony- My students learn and PRACTICE that with me.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony-  I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone. I’m also at SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.  My classes are listed at BlackBagResources.com

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network.  We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 70 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 70. Instructor Tony Simon joins us this week with three new self-defense stories. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they prepared? How would you react in their situation? (15:30 )

Rob- Introduction- I’m Rob Morse and welcome to episode 70 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who think they might want a firearm.. and those who already have one.  We’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?  I heard you on Lock and Load Radio.

Tony- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been busy getting the word out about our tee shirts that we are selling to raise funds for The 2nd is For Everyone: Diversity Shoots, getting classes ready for students and writing a new curriculum for a Home Hardening class that I am going to teach.

Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze three examples of armed civilian defense.  We hope you use these reports as part of your exercise program.. to use your imagination today so you can defend the people you care about tomorrow.  Please leave us a message on our facebook page with your questions or comments.

Tony- Our first story took place last week in Memphis, Tennessee.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at work in the afternoon?

You work in a convenience store.  A man comes in, grabs two beers, and heads to the door.  You shout for him to come to the counter and pay.  He shouts back that you can’t stop him.  He reaches for his waistband and tells you to stay where your are.  You think he has a gun.  He starts to turn toward you.  You draw and fire your sidearm.  The robber runs, but collapses outside.  You call police.  You know the drill.  The store has been robbed before.

Tony- This bad guy pretended that he had a gun to intimidate the victim. As Mas Ayoob says the attacker suffered a failure in his victim selection process. He got shot by an armed “victim”.

Tony- We here at the podcast always say that you need a plan when it comes to armed self defense. Once the bad guy has stated he intends to use deadly force, acts like he has a means to carry out that intent and advances on you as if he is going to harm you then you must use that plan without hesitation.

You must go with 100% effort to save your life. If he ends up not having a gun, like this thief, that is his fault that he got shot.The time it takes you to figure out if he was “serious” could cost you your life.

Tony- Like our first story, our second story also happened in Memphis, Tennessee

Rob- Second Story- Are you armed at home late at night?

You worked late and then ran some errands on the way home.  You live in a gated apartment complex.  You let yourself through the gate and drive to your parking place.  You get out of your car and grab your bags.  A man comes running at you out of the darkness.  He grabs your computer bag and your purse.  The strap is over your shoulder.  You hang on and scream for your boyfriend.  He comes running out of your apartment and tackles your attacker.  Your Ruger pistol falls out of your purse.  Now the three of you are scrambling to grab it.  You win, and shoot your attacker twice in the chest.  You and your boyfriend stand up and reach for your phones.

The police charged your attacker with aggravated assault and criminal attempted felony.  You go to the hospital for scrapes and cuts.

Tony- Security is a feeling, you must be aware of what is happening around you. Gated communities are not safe.  They may be less dangerous than a convenience store parking lot at 1 am but they are not safe.

On body carry is much better than carrying your firearm in your bag or purse. Your bag is the most likely target of the thief. When he grabs you by your bag he has all of the leverage and you end up holding onto the strap and getting dragged along for the ride.

Tony- I’ve followed people into secured office buildings and have had them hold the door open for me and give me directions to offices inside the building. Never assume you are completely safe because getting into your building requires a key fob.

Tony- Our third story happened last week in Lumberton, North Carolina.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at work very early in the morning?  

You’re working very late.  The front of your store is closed, and you’re sitting in the back of your store repairing your customer’s cell phones.  You hear a loud crash and the entire building shakes.  Five young men smashed their way into your store through the front windows and doors.  You grab your shotgun and walk out of the back of the store.  The robbers turn and run..except for one of them.  He keeps coming toward you.  You press the trigger and the thug drops to the ground.

You call police.  Unfortunately, the police take your shotgun as evidence.  Fortunately, you have another one.

Tony-  The victim was a 66 year old man and the attacker was a teen that had multiple partners breaking into his business.

Rob- Disparity of force.

Tony- Fighting off multiple attackers, alone, at night, isn’t something that comes easily. Especially if those attackers are determined to hurt you. Being able to operate your gun, move, hit multiple moving targets and keeping your gun loaded and in the fight isn’t something that you “figure out” during a fight. Taking defensive firearms training teaches you what you don’t know about armed self defense, your self, your firearm and your self-defense plan.

Rob- This man saved his own life, but his attackers could have overwhelmed him.

Tony- This was multiple people breaking in and attempting to steal as much as they can carry. If it came to a fight they were not going to “fight fair”. Criminals aren’t stupid.  They don’t want a fair fight. Neither should you, take the time to train to be a winner during a life or death confrontation.

Rob- So where do we learn?

Tony- Most ranges won’t allow you shoot at multiple targets, they won’t allow you to rapid fire, they won’t allow you to turn off the lights and they won’t allow you to move while you shoot. Going to a class on a range that is set up for this type of training is what we need to look for and where we learn these skills.

Rob- that sounds important.

Tony- It is, but first you have to know how to operate your firearm. One of the problems that I see most often in class and at the range is that some people don’t know how their gun operates on a instinctive level. You need to have intimate knowledge of the operation of your self defense firearm, that means taking it to the range and using it at least monthly not sitting it in the corner and letting it collect dust until you need it. One of my suggestions on how to get good operating your firearm is to take up a shooting sport ,at  a local range, using your self defense gun or the same type of gun as your self-defense gun. Shooting in a weekly event is fun. You will meet new people and learn to shoot under the stress of competition. Adding the stress in a non life threatening way allows you to see how you operate and learn what you need to work on.

Rob- The victim probably didn’t see the muzzle of his gun as he aimed it.

Tony- The victim most likely was looking at the threat not the front sight.  Once you have those basic skills at the unconscious level you will be better equipped to defend yourself.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony- Our listeners can find me at Simon Says Train on Facebook and also at SimonSaysTrain Instagram and the 2nd is For Everyone on Facebook. For a limited time we are selling a tee shirt to raise funds for our 2nd Amendment workshop, The 2nd is For Everyone: Diversity Shoot, on our website DiversityShoot.com stop by to see what we are about, make a donation or buy a shirt.

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network.  We share this podcast with you for free, and ask that you share it with a friend.  Please give us a rating on I-Tunes.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 65 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 65 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. Firearms instructor Tony Simon joins us this week. We report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they prepared? How would you do in their situation? (17 minutes )

Rob- Introduction- I’m Rob Morse and welcome to episode 65 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who think they might want a firearm.. and those who already have one.  We’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?

Tony- Hi, Rob.  How have I been? I had ‘The Second is for Everyone’ diversity shoot a few days ago.  About 50 people came.

Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze three examples of armed civilian defense.  We hope you use these reports as part of your exercise program.. to use your imagination today so you can defend the people you care about tomorrow.  Please leave us a message on our facebook page with your questions or comments.

Tony- Our first story took place last week in Selma, Alabama.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed as you arrive home?  You and your wife arrive home just before midnight.  You park in your driveway and start to get out of your car.  A man runs out of the darkness and says, “give it up.”  He has a gun pointed at you.  You’re on the driver’s side and you reach for your gun.  The attacker shoots you, and then he runs toward the passenger side of the car.  You shoot him as he grabs your wife’s purse.  Then you call police.

You’re released from the hospital in a few hours.  Your attacker was a convicted felon.

Tony- Felons don’t obey gun laws so this guy got a gun and committed another armed robbery. You don’t know when you will become a victim of violent crime so follow the “Pants on-Gun on” motto

Rob- so what should we do?

Tony- Let’s put motion sensor lights on the house so the driveway lights up when you come home. Cut back bushes and shrubs from your house. If the bad guy doesn’t have the cover of darkness or a hiding place he has no location from which to launch an ambush. Bad guys won’t likely stand in the middle of a empty, well lit lawn.

Rob- I see.  It is better to avoid the fight than win one.

Tony- You can’t lose a fight that you never showed up to be in.  Also, if you and your spouse are armed the two of you being armed is 10 times more effective than one of you being armed. Two sets of eyes scanning for bad guys is more effective than one set.

Rob- My wife and I took training together.  But we have to practice.

Tony- You have to practice together.  You can do it as you’re walking down the street together, or walking at the mall. During this year’s NRA annual meeting in Atlanta my wife and I stayed alert and kept our heads on a swivel. We were effective because we do this no matter where we are going. Being aware of your surroundings  at all times should become a goal.

Rob- OK, so now I’ve got homework.

Tony- We all have homework.  The next thing is to have your gun on you.  This victim had to reach for his gun as if it were not on his body.  It could have been located in a bag or in a compartment inside the car.

Rob-  Getting a gun from his bag took time he didn’t have.

Tony-  He might have had the time later, but he didn’t have it right then.  What if the robber took whatever his gun was in or saw it inside of the car before the victim could reach it?

Rob- Yikes.  What do you mean he didn’t have time right then?

Tony- The robber had moved on to the other side of the car and his attention was elsewhere when the driver got his gun into the fight. Using a term that I learned from Ben Branum, the driver used “tactical patience” and attacked when the situation favored him. The victim was justified in going for his gun, but it is still our decision when we do it.  

Tony- Our second story happened last week in Wichita, Kansas.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you drive for Lyft?  You’re driving for Lyft.  It’s late at night on memorial day, and you think you’ll just take some people home after they have been partying too hard and too late.  You pick up two passengers who say they want to go to the zoo..in the middle of the night.  That sets off some alarm bells.  You drive them back to where you picked them up and a third man, one of their friends gets in the car as well.  That is when they start asking inappropriate questions.

You’re a married mom, and it sounds like they are looking for something else entirely.  One of the men grabs your breast.  You yell for him to stop and get out of the car.  He doesn’t move fast enough so you draw your firearm.  Now he moves.

You call police.

Being a stay at home mom seems like a better idea than driving for Lyft.

Tony- Could she have avoided the problem by letting her passengers out in front of a police station, or a major well-lit motel that has porters standing outside.  The staff will walk up to your window and ask if you want them to park your car.  That means you have a witness, and that alone will stop a lot of criminals.

Rob- she was in the driver’s seat..in more ways than one.

Tony- Right, but she didn’t have a plan of what to do if she had aggressive passengers.  Most gun owners don’t carry.  Most of the carriers only took enough training to get their license.  Thinking these things through helps you make better choices.

Rob-  Do you have students who drive a cab, or work for Lyft or Uber?

Tony- I have not had any students but both my Father-in Law and Mother-in- law drive and drove cabs for years. You should never take on fares by yourself.  Have a plan to get police to you or to get yourself to the police.

Our third story happened last week in Burlington, North Carolina.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you wash your car?  You’re washing your car early in the morning.  You see another car cruise by, and then it parks a few stalls away from you.  It’s an old car with lots of patches and half painted repairs.  Odd that they want to wash their car in the middle of the night.  You’re worried, so you grab your gun from your car.

A man steps around the concrete barriers between stalls.  He has a bandana over his face and he points his gun at you.  He says to give him your money.  You raise your gun and fire.  Your attacker runs away.  You’re not injured.  You call police.

Tony, what did the victim do right?

Tony- Rob, the victim was aware of his surroundings, he wasn’t distracted by having his earphones on and his head down.

Rob- He would have been disarmed if he hadn’t seen them coming.

Tony- And please have your gun on your body.  What if you were washing the passenger side of your car while the gun was over on the drivers side.  When you need a gun, you really need a gun. If it isn’t on you, you may spend the rest of your life trying to reach your defensive firearm.

Rob- again, that was time the victim didn’t have.

Tony- you know you said that before.

Rob- Well we make the same mistakes over and over.  Next week I’ll try and find new mistakes.

Tony- Most gun owners don’t have carry permits.  Lots of people with their permit don’t carry.  They would do so much better with just a little bit of training and a little thought. Training gives you things to think about that may never have crossed your mind.

Rob- In this example, what would your students learn

Tony- here are two obvious things.  First lesson is to move to keep the car between you and your attacker.  The second is to know how well you shoot.  Practice lets you know what you’re capable of doing.  It looks like the victim’s shot missed his attacker.  This was a psychological stop.  Please practice shooting quickly.  Not every range will let you do that.

Rob- Drawing quickly can be dangerous for new students, so you’d probably want to practice with and empty gun at first.

Tony- Please start with a class so you’re not practicing mistakes.  

Rob- better yet.

Tony- Don’t do what you see people do in the movies or on TV or Youtube.  We can show you how to do it safely and quickly.

We also tell everyone to win the race to the phone.  Be the first one to call the police.

Rob- You know that is three things you’d tell your students.  You said there were only two.

Tony- basic gun safety

How to shoot safely

How to defend yourself with a gun.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony-  I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone. I’m also at SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.  My classes are listed at BlackBagResources.com

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-  If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network.  We create this podcast under a creative commons license, so please share it with a friend, and give us a rating on I-Tunes.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 57 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 57 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. Firearms instructor Tony Simon joins us this week. Together, we report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they prepared? How would you do if you were in their situation?

Introduction- Rob- Welcome to episode 57 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This show is for  people who think they might want a gun for self-defense, and those who already have one.  I’m Rob Morse and we’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?

 

Tony- Hi, Rob.  

Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze three examples of armed civilian defense each week.  I hope we inspire you to defend the people you care about.  If you have questions or want to hear more, then please leave us a message on our facebook page.

Our first story took place this month in North Carolina.

 

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at a bingo parlor.  You run a bingo parlor in Winston Salem.  People want to gamble at all hours, so you’re open all day long.  Usually it is quiet in the early morning.  Usually, but not this day.  Two men enter your business at 5 in the morning.  They walk up to you and say “Give me the money.”

At 63 three years old, you feel too old for this.  These two robbers are in their 20s.  Then they pull out pistols and threaten you and your customers.  One of the robbers waves his pistol in your face.  You are armed.  You draw your handgun and shoot the robber closest to you.  Both robbers turn and run.  One shoots you in the shoulder as he leaves.

The police arrive in a few minutes.  EMTs take you to the hospital to have your shoulder bandaged up.  They say the robber you shot died a few blocks from your bingo parlor.

Tony: Have a gun.  Good, the manager did.  Good for him.

The manager was willing to save his own life and the life of his customers.  Again, that is a good decision that he made a long time ago.

Rob- So you think the manager had thought about this ahead of time.

Tony- I do.  He was armed at work.. Every day.  He also did something else right.

I want you to move as you present your firearm if the situation dictates that you do so.  I think the manager moved as he was presenting his weapon and that is why the robber shot him in the shoulder rather than the chest.

Rob- It is always the right time to move.

Tony- Right, and just because you’re shot doesn’t mean you are out of the fight.

Here is what we don’t know and it’s really important.  You don’t have to draw your gun the instant you see his gun.  You can, but you don’t have to.  Sometimes it is better to wait your turn.  Maybe the robbers will turn their attention to the cash drawer or the other customers and give you a chance to act.

Either way, once you see your opportunity, you have to move and act to end the fight.

Rob- I noticed that the manager did not chase the robbers out of the store.

Tony- He did the right thing.  Leave the criminal to the police once you and your customers are safe.

Rob- Is there more?

Tony- That’s enough for now.  Have a gun, have a plan, take your turn, and know when to stop.

Rob- You make it sound so simple.

Tony- It is simple, but it isn’t easy.  There is more to say, but we’ll save it for another example.

Tony- Our second story took place in Florida.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home.  The first thing you hear are your dogs barking.  They wake you up.  They keep at it so you roll out of bed, put on your pants, and grab your firearm.  It’s early morning and you walk into the main part of your home in Orlando, Florida.  You’re 65 years old and your house has been broken into four times before.  The dogs are barking at a stranger standing in your enclosed porch.

You tell the stranger to leave.  He says he’s looking for a landscape job.  You say you don’t have one and that he has to go.  The stranger opens the door and pushes past you into your home.

You yell for the man to leave.  He looks around the house and then runs at you.  To quote from the police report, “He started coming at me, running at me, so I pulled out my gun and I shot him..”

The homeowner held the suspect until police arrived.

Tony- The victim had his pistol in his pants pocket when he went to answer the door. He was following the POGO principle, Pants On Gun On

I want our listeners to put their gun away at night so they can access it quickly and safely.  I want them to wear a holster and put on their gun every morning when they put on their pants or skirt.  POGO, pants on gun on.

Rob- This story is from florida.  Lots of citizens have their carry permits there.

Tony- I think this man carried every day.  Also, he used verbal commands.  He tried to back away from the confrontation.  The intruder brought the fight to him.  That makes the case very easy to explain and it may keep you out of court.

Rob-  You’re saying the homeowner was pushed into this fight.  What about after the fight. Is it easy to hold someone at gunpoint?

Tony- It is dangerous.  The intruder was shot in the hip and he didn’t going anywhere.  You won’t know the condition of our attacker after you defend yourself.

Don’t stand there with your finger on the trigger if you’re not going to shoot someone.  Your weapon should be at the low ready position or the high ready position.  Your finger should be off the trigger.

Back away from the intruder.  Maybe you holster your firearm to call the police.  Maybe not if you don’t feel safe.  Reholster when you hear the sirens.

Rob-  And the only warning the homeowner had was his dogs barking.

Tony- and then he did the right thing.  He had a gun when he had an unexpected fight with a stranger in his home.

Rob- Anything else?

Tony- Our third story took place in Louisiana.

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Third story- Are you armed when you are driving your car for Uber? It is one in the morning and you’re driving for Uber in New Orleans.  You dropped off a passenger a few minutes ago and you’re looking at your phone to see if anyone else needs a ride.  Two men pull open the doors of your car and get in.  They have guns, and the guns are pointed at you.  They say drive, so you drive.  A couple blocks later they tell you to get out of your car.  You stop the car and get out.  You’re armed.  You shoot the robber closest to you.  Both robbers turn and run.

You call the police.

Tony-  Remember when I said that self-defense was simple.

You’re innocent.  You didn’t start a fight, they did.
Your life is in danger, they have guns pointed at you.
You face an immediate threat, you can be dead any second.
You can’t avoid the threat when it is sitting right next to you.

Those are the conditions you need to morally and legally use lethal force in self-defense.  When you defend yourself is up to you.

You won’t have time to learn about that when it is happening, but you will have time to recognize that situation if you already thought about it.  Let me say that again so you can look it up and study it.

The threat is dangerous, immediate, and unavoidable.

Rob- So the driver didn’t have to spend time wondering if he should protect himself.

Tony- Don’t spend the rest of your life wondering if you should save yourself.  Think about it now so you can use the rest of your life staying alive.

Rob- It isn’t a good idea when robbers tell you to go with them.

Tony- That is called abduction and kidnapping.  Add that to felony assault and robbery.

Tony- This driver was pretty cool.  He had guns pointed at him and he didn’t panic.  He waited his turn and then brought the fight to his attackers.  He did a great job.

Rob- The driver had his gun with him in a holster, or at least it wasn’t stuffed in the glove compartment.

Tony- Please carry on body.

Rob- Do you talk about this with your students?

Tony- Every week.  And being from New Jersey, we have our own examples.

Exit- Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony-  I teach safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone and SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.  My classes are listed at BlackBagResources.com

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-  If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network.  We create this podcast under a creative commons license, so please share them with a friend, and give us a rating on I-Tunes.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 49 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 49 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. Firearms instructor Tony Simon joins us this week. We report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they prepared?

Introduction- Rob- Welcome to episode 49 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This show is for people who think they might want a gun for self-defense, and those who already have one.  I’m Rob Morse and we’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.

Tony – Hi, Rob.  Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze three examples of armed civilian defense each week.  I hope we inspire you to defend the people you care about.  If you have questions or want to hear more, then please leave us a message on our facebook page.

Our first story took place this month in Pennsylvania.

First story-  Are you armed when you go out to pick-up Chinese food?  A 31 year old man walked across the street to pick up his order for Chinese food.  That done, he tried to return to his Philadelphia home.  A teenager punched the man in the face as he lef the restaurant.  The victim takes the punch, drops his food, and runs across the street trying to avoid a fight.  The robber pursues the victim and catches him across the street.  That is where the victim drew his firearm and shot the robber one time.

The victim stayed at the scene and spoke to police.  He had a license to carry.  The restaurant owner said that two people a week are mugged outside his store.

Tony – Be aware of what is happening in your neighborhood. Robberies by groups of young people have been happening in this area at the rate of  twice a week, according to a witness. If you know this type of crime is happening and you have a description of the suspects then be aware of people that fit the description.

Rob- The victim tried to run.  There wasn’t any question about who started this fight.

Tony -The victim did some things correctly. He dropped what he assumed the attacker wanted and tried to disengage from the confrontation. It seems that he was trying to avoid turning this strong armed robbery into a shooting. He placed rounds on target, making the bad guy stop and he waited for the police to arrive and gave a statement.

Rob- the victim stopped shooting.

Tony- It is hard to think in the moment if you haven’t thought about it ahead of time.

Rob- Could the victim have avoided the assault?

Tony – Our second story took place in Ohio.

Second Story-  Are you armed at home in the evening?  A Cleveland homeowner went out to his car  late friday night.  As he was returning from his driveway and attempting to go back inside when a stranger approached the homeowner.  The robber already had his gun drawn and told the homeowner to go back inside.  That is when another man inside the home saw the victim with his arms raised above his head.  The second homeowner recognized a robbery in progress.  He drew his firearm, and shot the robber. The robber ran.  The victims called police.

Tony – The homeowner got surprised by an armed suspect and complied with his demands. Lucky for him there was someone in the home that recognized what was happening and took action. This criminal had multiple weapons on him and was prepared to use them. Who knows what would have happened inside the home once the bad guy got them behind closed doors. Always let someone know when you are leaving the home, even to run outside really quickly. Not only because of situations like this but other mishaps can happen and without someone in the home knowing anything has happened to you. This could make a bad situation become worse.

For example, it’s cold up here in the Northeast and there are patches of black ice in people’s driveways and it gets dark early. A husband runs out to get something from the car and his wife, whose in another room assumes he’s inside the home. The husband falls and hits his head, is rendered unconscious and lays outside in freezing temperatures until he is discovered a couple of hours later. He could suffer from Hypothermia or Frostbite. This happened to my own father during the winter of 2014. Luckily he was discovered relatively quickly by a passerby and rushed to the hospital.

Rob-  The armed victim had to shoot at night at a moving assailant, with his friend near the target.  Not an easy shot.

Tony – The armed victim had to fire at night with a friend in close proximity to the bad guy. I tell my students that they most likely won’t get into a gunfight on a sunny day with a target that isn’t moving and has no one around him or her. You have to practice things like precision shot placement, shooting in low light and hitting moving targets. That is why we teach these skills and have force on force classes as part of our curriculum.

Tony- Our third story also took place in Ohio.

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Third story- Are you armed when you’re at home late at night?  A man answered his back door late at night in Columbus, Ohio.  Two men said their car broke down and they needed to use a phone to summon help.  The homeowner stepped outside and was hit with a gun when he tried to return back inside his own home.  The robbers demanded money.  They robbers demanded to search the back of the home.  That is where two children were sleeping.  Instead of opening the back room, the female homeowner grabbed a gun and shot the robbers.  They ran, and the victims called police.  Both robbers sought medical attention and were arrested by police.

Tony-  Don’t open the door to strangers late at night.

Rob- What should the homeowner have done if someone asked for help?

Tony- If they have car problems and you want to help then you can make the call for them. There is no reason to open your door and give them your phone.

Rob- You don’t need a permit to carry at home.

Tony- They both could have been armed and not opened the front door. That would have kept bad men outside their home.

Tony- In the online video of this story the family is upset about this robbery and want to move somewhere safer, where they won’t have to depend on their gun for their safety. No matter where you go you are responsible for your safety and security. You are your own first responder.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony-  I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone and SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.  We have a class scheduled for March 4th in Pine Brook, New Jersey.  Sign up on our web page, BlackBagResources.com

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony- We offer you this podcast for free.  We ask you to share them with a friend, and to give us a rating on I-Tunes.

I’m Rob Morse.  Please join us next week for more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

 

Episode 41 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 41 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. We report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense each week.

Introduction- Rob- Welcome to episode 41 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is now a proud part of the Self-Defense Radio Network.  I’m Rob Morse and we’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.  How have you been, Tony?Tony Simon

Tony – Hi, Rob.  Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. We report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense each week.  We inform you about the news, and I hope we inspire you to defend the people you care about.

Tony- Our first story took place this month in Ohio.

First story-  Are you armed at home?  A mom in Youngstown Ohio was loading her car with the help of her two children.  She’d returned to her home when she heard her children scream.  The homeowner saw a stranger standing in her kitchen.  She went back to her bedroom and grabbed the gun she keeps under her pillow.  She shot the intruder in the stomach.  He ran from the home. A waiting car took him to a local hospital.

Tony- People refuse to believe that there are no “safe places”. If you really believe there are evil people in the world then you need to act accordingly. Pants on, gun on. Even in a anti gun state like New Jersey you can carry in your home…for now.

Rob- She didn’t know he was in the home.

Tony- Who knows what this guy wanted with her or her kids but as a parent she had to protect her family. Luckily  for her she had an effective means to do so.

Rob- Was she lucky.

The gun wasn’t with her.  What if the intruder was between her and her bedroom?

Tony- She would have had to depend on the mercy of the merciless and that could have been very bad. Many people think just give the criminal what they want they will go away. That’s not always the case and sometimes you may not be willing to give up what they are demanding. You are your first responder, get trained, get armed and become an asset in an emergency.

Rob- Did she call the police?

Tony – It’s not clear if she called the police or not. You must call the police as soon as it is safe for you to do so. The police need to know that you are the good guy, the victim of a crime,  they also need a description of the bad guy as soon as possible so that they know who to look for and can catch them.

Rob-  She did defend her family.

Tony – The mom shot the intruder and he fled the scene. She did a good job not shooting the fleeing man in the back. You should only use deadly force to stop the threat. As soon as the threat is over stop shooting.

Rob-  Is there more?

Tony – Our second story took place in Florida.

Second Story- Are you armed at work?  A clerk was working at a gas station convenience store in Tallahassee, Florida.  A robber entered the store on Sunday evening.  The robber came up to the clerk and presented a handgun.  He demanded the money from the cash register.  The clerk fought with the robber.  The robber shot at and wounded the clerk.  The clerk ran towards the cash register where he grabbed a gun of his own.  The clerk shot the robber.  The robber died at the scene.  The clerk was wounded but is expected to make a full recovery.  The robber’s accomplice was arrested across the street.  The 20 year old robber did not have a criminal history, but the getaway driver did.  The two criminals are suspects in 10 armed robberies in the last 10 days.

Tony- The robbers have a plan.  You need one too. If you have not gotten formal training, YET, you can still formulate reaction plans for what happens if you are attacked. In the middle of a life and death struggle is not when you want to be thinking up a plan of action. Have multiple plans for self defense for where you live and work. The more training you get the more skills you have the better you can react to unforeseen situations that don’t follow your plan.

Rob- hand to hand?

What if the criminal was between you and your gun?

Who called police?

Tony- Self defense can be in many forms and the more forms you are proficient in the better you are equipped to handle confrontation. If you have the ability to mentally defeat an attacker and verbally convince them to move on use that. If you are physically attacked and you beat up the person and make them stop, disengage and run away it is still a win for you. If you depend on a tool to defend yourself make sure it is within reach at all time regardless of what that tool may be. If you are attacked verbally and threatened and the person leaves or attacked physically and the attacker runs off without getting anything you should still call the police and report the attack. You want an official report made of the incident. If the attacker comes back or attacks others the police have a record of that person and their prior behavior.

Tony- Our third story took place in Maine.

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Third story-  Are you armed when you are outside your home?  A man was returning to his girlfriend’s apartment in Lewiston, Maine.  This was at 10 pm on a Friday night.  The victim was attacked by two strangers outside his apartment, but the victim tried to flee into the building.  The attackers first shouted at him, beat him, and then ripped his wallet from the chain attached to his pants.  The two attackers continued to beat the victim.  He presented his 22 caliber pistol and fired four times.  The robbers ran.  The victim called police.  One of the robbers walked into a local hospital with a bullet in his shoulder.  The wounded man was arrested, but said he was the victim and that the armed man called him names.   Surveillance video and reports from other eyewitnesses matches the armed victim’s account of the story, not his attackers.

The attacker is in jail, and police are searching for his accomplice.

Tony-  Win the call to 911. Whomever makes the first call to the police is seen as the victim until it is investigated further. You don’t want to be in jail until it is figured out. Call the police as soon as possible, relay to them what happened and describe your attackers

Rob- It sounds like there were witnesses.

Tony- The victim tried to retreat from his attackers and that is a good tactic if you are successful.

Rob- Was he accurate with a gun?

Tony- Firearms training is a martial art that can be deadly but it needs to be supplemented by other skills.  Observation skills and verbal skills can help you avoid or deescalate an attack and hand to hand skills can get you seperation from the bad guy and get your firearm into action, if it is necessary.

Tony- Lastly I want to discuss the shot placement and caliber of his self defense firearm. Going to the range and shooting at paper can give you a false sense of security in your marksmanship ability. Taking a defensive firearms training class in which you are trained to shoot and more and be accurate under pressure will bring your skill levels and confidence up to a level that will get you fight stopping hits on a bad guy. Choose a centerfire defensive firearm because rimfire ammunition like .22 Long Rifle are not powerful enough to stop a determined attacker with one round due to its lack of penetration and wound characteristics. 9mm pistols are as easy to carry as most semi auto 22 caliber pistols with the added benefit of more powerful and dependable ammo.

Rob- When do you teach your students to move with a firearm?

Rob- What do you recommend for an everyday carry holster?

Tony- They learn that in our first class.

Exit- Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners find out more about you?

Tony-  I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone and SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony – If these examples inspired you, then please share them with a friend.  Would you also give us a rating on I-Tunes.

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Episode 36 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 36 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. We report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense each week.

Introduction- Rob- Welcome to episode 36 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is now part of the Self-Defense Radio Network.  I’m Rob Morse and we’re joined this week by self-defense instructor  Tony Simon.  How have you been?Tony Simon

Tony – Hi, Rob.  I want to welcome our new listeners, and say welcome back our regular listeners. Together, Rob and I report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense.  We inform you about the news, and I hope we inspire you to defend the people you care about.

Tony- Our first story took place this month in Florida.

Rob- first story- Are you armed when you stop for gasoline late at night?  A man and woman drove into a gas station in Vero Beach, Florida.  A homeless man sleeping at the gas station woke up as they arrived.  The homeless man accused the couple of stealing his property.  The couple got back in their car and started to leave when the homeless man reached into the car through an open driver’s side window.  The homeless man grabbed the driver and threatened him with a four inch knife.  The driver drew his firearm and shot his attacker.

The homeless man had been released from jail the day before.  His arrest record includes striking a law enforcement officer, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and public intoxication.

Rob- We can’t always see everyone around a gas station as we pull in late at night.

Tony- Gas stations are places where our attention is usually focused on filling the tank, we need to take in our surroundings. Bad guys know that people are distracted at the pumps.

Rob- We spend a lot of time in our cars.

Tony- We see our cars as a “safe place” because we are in a closed secured environment while driving but at a gas station you are not in your car you are near your car. You have a limited field of view standing between your car and the pumps with the fuel hose cutting off one avenue of retreat. Be aware of your vulnerability in that position.

Rob- Gas stations used to be “gun free zones” in some states.Tony-

Tony- Our second story took place in Colorado.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home when you have a friend over?  A woman in Hooper, Colorado invited a friend to live with her.  The friend was fleeing from her boyfriend.  The friend had taken out a restraining order.  That didn’t stop the boyfriend from showing up.  The homeowner told the boyfriend to leave and called police.  The boyfriend pointed a rifle at the homeowner.  The homeowner had a rifle of her own and shot the ex-boyfriend. The boyfriend’s rifle was a bb gun.  The boyfriend died at the scene.  The police investigated the shooting and refused to prosecute the homeowner.

Tony – It seems our theme today is crazy people. Be careful when getting involved in another couples’ domestic disputes it can be very dangerous.

Rob- Distance of handgun vs long gun.

Tony- Our last story took place in Texas.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at your dentist’s office?  A woman was leaving her dentist’s office in Houston Texas.  She was attacked by a naked man as she walked from the office to her car that was parked in the parking lot.  The woman ran back into the dentist’s office and her attacker followed her.  The victim hid in the office behind a locked door along with the office staff.  The attacker tried to kick through the locked door before the attacker jumped over the reception desk.  The attacker chased the dentist from the building.  The dentists told the attacker to stop, but the attacker advanced on the dentist. The dentist drew his firearm and shot his attacker one time.

Relatives of the attacker said he was high on PCP.. again.

Tony-  Many people say that they will only carry their gun when they go somewhere dangerous but I don’t think anyone imagines that they will be chased by a naked man through their dentist office. Pants on, gun on.

Rob- anesthesia?

Tony-drugs and druggies are everywhere.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners find out more about you?

Tony- I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone and SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony – If you liked these examples then please share them with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes.

I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 27 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 27 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. We report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense each week.

Introduction-  Rob- We’re back with episode 27 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  I’m Rob Morse and I’m joined this week by self-defense instructor Tony Simon.Tony Simon

Tony- Hi, Rob.  Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. Together, we report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense.  We inform you about the news, and inspire you to defend the people you love.  Our first story took place last month in Ohio.

First story- Bring a knife to a gunfight.  A Youngstown homeowner heard a thief breaking into cars in front of his house.  The thief was breaking into the homeowner’s car when the homeowner came out and told the robber to stop.  The robber drew a knife and threatened the homeowner.  The homeowner drew his gun and shot the thief.  The thief ran.  The homeowner called the police and remained at the scene.

Tony, was this gun owner’s life in danger?

Tony- The homeowner wasn’t endangered while inside of the home, they put themselves in danger by becoming involved in an armed confrontation over a car.  Having a gun in a knife fight doesn’t guarantee the gun owner won’t sustain a life threatening injury. If no life is in danger don’t turn a robbery into a life and death situation. Call the police and be a good witness.

Our second story took place in Arizona

Second Story- Bringing a Hammer to a Gunfight  An employee left a store in Tempe Arizona at about 7 in the evening.  A man approached the employee and threatened him with a hammer before he hit him.  That is when the employee drew his firearm and shot his attacker one time in the chest.  The robber stopped hitting the employee and the employee stopped shooting his attacker.  The victim remained at the scene.  It isn’t clear who called police.

EMTs transported the robber.  The victim had injuries consistent with being the victim.

Tony- Avoid getting hit. Win the race to the phone. You have to talk to the police to establish your innocence.. And then shut up.

Tony- Our last story took place in Kentucky

 

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Third story-  Bringing your mom to a gunfight.  A large armed man walked into a corner market and demanded money.  The clerk grabbed a shotgun they keep behind the counter and shot the intruder.  The wounded robber ran, but did not seek treatment at a local hospital.  The surveillance video confirms the clerk’s story and that the robber was struck by the shotgun pellets.  The store was robbed earlier this year.  That time it was the clerk’s mother who was robbed of $600 dollars.

A shotgun?

Tony- A shotgun is a great home defense tool and it is just as good for defense of your business.  Your goal is to end the threat as quickly as possible, and shotguns bring much more power than a handgun with multiple projectiles per trigger pull.

Action is faster than reaction. Just because you are behind the curve doesn’t mean the fight is over.

Your defensive tools have to be near by, not across the room, not in a safe, not in the back office. It would have been much better if both clerks were carrying concealed so they could defend each other.  The same is true at for home invasions as well.

Don’t have established ideas of what your fight will look like, that will slow your reaction time.  Have a plan, take in new information, use it accordingly and have confidence in your tools and skill set to fight you way to victory.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Thank you, Tony for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony- I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone and SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony- If you like these examples then please share them with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes.

I’m Rob Morse.  Please join us next week for more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 18 with Tony Simon

Welcome to episode 18 of Self-Defense Gun Stories. We report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense each week.

SelfDefenseGunStories_Header_v2-2Introduction– Rob- Welcome to episode 18 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  I’m Rob Morse with self-defense instructor Tony Simon.

Tony- Hi, Rob.  Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners. Together, we report and analyze examples of armed civilian defense each week.  Our first example took place last month in South Carolina.

First story-  A game store owner in Columbia was playing a videogame with a customer.  There were other customers in the store as well even though it was 9:30 in the morning.  Two robbers came into the store and one robber had his gun drawn.  They took money from the store.  The robbers turned their back on the store owner in order to rob other customers.   That gave the store owner a chance to draw his own firearm from his pocket and shoot the armed robbers.  Both robbers fled but were soon picked up by police.  The injured robber was taken to a local hospital

Tony-  This was at 9:30 in the morning with other people around.  The defender had to mind his shots because he didn’t want to shoot innocent customers.

Second Story-  A homeless woman living in Gainsville, Florida called police early in the evening.  One of the other homeless people in the encampment kept bothering her.  She was on the phone to the police dispatcher when she was attacked.  Police heard her yelling “get off me” before the call ended.  The homeless woman retrieved her firearm from her purse and then shot her attacker in the chest.  He died at the scene.  Witnesses say the woman acted in self-defense.

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Third story-  A man in Dayton, Ohio was still lying in bed at 6 in the morning.  A burglar used a hammer to break through the homeowners back door.  By the time the homeowner was awake, the intruder was in his bedroom.  The homeowner grabbed his gun from his nightstand and shot the intruder.  The homeowner told police quote, “He said he had a gun and I shot him.”  The dead intruder was on probation after a conviction for aggravated burglary with a deadly weapon.

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Exit- Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Tony- I teach firearms safety and armed-self defense courses in (what part of ) New Jersey.  Our listeners can contact me on Facebook at Simon Says Train or at The Second is for Everyone and SimonSaysTrain on Instagram.

Rob- Our listeners can leave us a message on the podcast facebook page.

I’m Rob Morse.  Please join us next week for more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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