Episode 135 with Tiffany Johnson

Rob- Introduction- I’m glad you found us and welcome to episode 135 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.

This podcast is for people who are curious about a firearm for self-defense, and for those of you already own one. I’m your host, Rob Morse. We’re joined this week by self defense instructor Tiffany Johnson.

Tiffany- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been instructing, grading papers, and..

Rob- Tiffany, how do you listen to this podcast?

Tiffany- Podcasts app (iPhone)

Rob- I’m looking for a bilingual podcaster to produce a spanish edition of Self-Defense Gun Stories. If you know someone, then please ask them to contact us.  Until then, Tiffany, please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.. In English.

Tiffany- We study several examples where gun owners faced a life threatening situation. Were they lucky, or did they have a plan? What should we do if we were in their place? Our first story took place last week in Missoula, Montana.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home on a monday morning?  

Your first clue was the sound of the dogs and cats going crazy. You go downstairs and see a strange car and several police cars on your driveway. You wave, and they say they are searching for a fugitive. You go back inside, grab your handgun, and carefully look through your house from top to bottom. You find a stranger huddled in the back corner of your basement furnace room. You order him to leave. After the intruder is grabbed by the police, you follow the intruder outside, lay down your pistol, and lie on the ground.

Your intruder is charged with burglary, theft, drug possession, reckless driving and evading officers. The police found methamphetamine in the stolen car in your driveway.

You’re a 58 year old math professor and competitive shooter. When a local reporter called you up, and you thanked the Western Montana Fish and Game Association and the Deer Creek Shooting Range for letting you compete and train.

What did our defender do correctly?

Tiffany- He had a gun. But wasn’t armed when the intruder broke in. I have a somewhat unconventional view on POGO…

Rob- Was lethal force every justified?

Tiffany- some might say, “Don’t clear your house.”

Rob- Tiffany, I have to question that. There are good reasons to keep the police outside. Police can shoot you, your wife, your dog and your cat and claim limited immunity. There is no good solution.

Tiffany- Like most issues in self-defense, there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Answer is, it depends…

Rob- Are home break ins very common?

Tiffany- POGO gives you a holster and a place to put your gun when you meet the police. But again, that’s ideal where feasible. Not always feasible. Balancing act.

Rob- I noticed that he did not have a cartridge in the chamber when he started. He did keep his finger off the trigger as he moved. What to you suggest for your students?

Tiffany- Not what I recommend.

Rob- Anything else?

Tiffany- That is enough for now. Our second story happened last week in Miami Beach, Florida.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you walk across the street with your girlfriend and child?   

Your girlfriend and your 8 month old child are out for a stroll. You see several men fighting across the street. It sounds serious, so you and your girlfriend pull out your cell phones and take video. One of the combatants runs across the street and hits you and then your girlfriend even though she is carrying a child. You all back away. The attacker follows you. You draw your gun and shoot your attacker. Now he stops.

There are lots of witnesses. You put your gun down and wait for the police.

What did our defender do correctly?

Rob- What would you tell your students to do?

Tiffany-  avoidance, avoidance, avoidance. Why on earth would you walk towards a brewing melee – let alone draw attention to yourself by conspicuously recording – with a baby in your arms? See the fight from a block away and go in the OPPOSITE direction. Call the police from a safe distance.

Tiffany-  putting gun down vs. Reholstering

Tiffany-  Know what is behind your target. This was a crowded area.

Our third story happened last week in Pasadena, California.

Rob- First this message from Buckeye Firearms Foundation.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you work at your uncle’s jewelry store?

It is almost 11 in the morning. You’re working in the back room of your uncle’s shop. There are a number of customers in the store when two men walk in. They say they want to look at chains and rings. When the other customers leave, one of the men pulls a knife and tries to stab your uncle. You grab the gun they keep in the back room, and run into the store. The robbers see your gun and run. You and the other store employees chase the robbers from the store.

Tiffany- Glad he was armed – (more specifically) glad he at least had a gun nearby

Tiffany- Pogo – out in public, absolutely

Tiffany- Have a holster.

Tiffany- have training. The video shows the defender pointing his gun at his uncle. Please get some instruction so you know what you should and should not do, and what you are capable and incapable of doing.

he gun is not a magic object that protects you. I don’t think this gun owner was a good enough shot to hit the attacker while the attackers were struggling with his uncle. You’ll learn that in class and at the range.

Tiffany- Our forth story took place last week in Phoenix, Arizona.

Rob- Fourth story- Are you armed at your hotel room?

A man knocks on the door of your hotel room. You open the door and he pushes his way inside. The intruder says to give him your money. You say you don’t have any. He argues, but steps outside. There, he draws a gun and points it at another stranger and demands the stranger’s money. You’re armed. You draw your gun and shoot the attacker.

You call police and stay in your room until they arrive.

Tiffany- Glad he was armed – (more specifically) glad he at least had a gun nearby.  However. Don’t ever open your hotel door for a total stranger!

Tiffany- Glad he was patient. He waited for an opportunity to get his gun rather than get into a gunfight. We don’t know if the defender had his gun on his body, or in his luggage.

Tiffany- Again, what is behind your target. You are responsible for every shot fired.

Rob- What would you tell your students to do? The armed man is standing in the doorway. Do you get up and walk toward your attacker to close the door?  

Exit-  Rob- that wraps up this episode. Tiffany, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Tiffany- Look for me at my website Front Sight Press and I instruct at Citizens Safety Academy and Rangemaster

Rob- If you like what you hear then leave us a message on the podcast facebook page.

Tiffany- We share this podcast with you for free.  Share the podcast with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- My friend Kevin Creighton started a new instruction business. He teaching concealed carry classes in Naples Florida. Find him at Quietly Armed.  http://quietlyarmed.com/concealed-carry-classes/

Rob- This podcast is part of the Self-defense radio network at sdrn.us

I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 116 with Tiffany Johnson

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 116 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who think they might want a firearm for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Tiffany Johnson with us as co-host.

Hi, Tiffany.  How have you been?

Tiffany- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been too busy with classes and my day jobs.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Tiffany- We study three recent examples of armed defense.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation. What should we do if we were in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Carlsbad, California.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?

It is Friday night and you’re having some friends over. Sometimes friends invite friends, so you see several strangers in your home and you ask them who they came with. They invited themselves, so you ask them to leave. They argue, but they go away. Not too long after that, you hear a terrible crash from your front door. These strangers kicked in your front door and are now standing in your hallway. You grab your gun and shoot at the intruders. Now they run.

Two of the attackers are wounded. Their friends took them to separate hospitals with non- life threatening injuries.

Tiffany- The door was locked.

Rob- Yes it was. That gave the homeowner more time to react as the home invaders broke down his door. A video camera and a motion detector would have given him warning too.

Tiffany, Yes, and they would have bought him even more time. The homeowner also had a firearm nearby. It’s unlikely that the gun was carried concealed, but even in anti-gun Carlsbad, California, you may still carry concealed at home.

Rob- Was the use of force justified?

Tiffany- Violent entry by multiple men is considered justifiable cause for self-defense. This wasn’t the fire department breaking through a door to get to someone who was trapped in a fire. This sounds more like gang activity.

Rob- It sounds like that to me too. But that can happen to honest people too. What should we do if we were in their place?

Tiffany- Our second story happened last week near Sacramento, California.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home?   

You hired several men to work on a construction project on your property. The sounds changed from the sound of saws and hammers, to the sound of screams and yells. You see one of the construction workers hit another worker with a hammer..several times. You grab your shotgun and run to the scene. You yell for the attacker to stop and threaten to shoot him. Now he stops the attack. You then shout for the other workers to call police and EMTs. You tell the attacker not to move. Sheriff’s deputies arrive by helicopter and secure the scene. The victim was taken to the hospital by ambulance and required surgery for life threatening injuries to his head. The attacker was arrested, and out on parole.

Tiffany- You want to investigate who you’re inviting on your property. This homeowner had a friend doing the construction work. The other laborers were friends of friends. That means you don’t know who is in your house. Real professionals have a license and are bonded to protect the homeowner from issues like this one.

Tiffany- It sounds like this was a rural neighborhood and the homeowner had a loaded shotgun at hand.

Rob- That is why the cops used a helicopter to get there quickly. What should we do with a violent criminal once he’s stopped an attack on a third person?

Tiffany- Our third story happened last week in Richmond, California, but first this message.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at night?  

It is after midnight. You are staying at your parents home when you hear breaking glass. You grab your gun and investigate. There you see a stranger standing in the front room of the house and he has something in his hands. You tell him to get out. He walks toward you. You shoot him until he stops advancing. Now your folks are awake, and they call 911. EMTs take your attacker to the hospital. The police recover 7 empty shell casings.

Your attacker had an arrest record for home invasion. Police think he’d broken into two other homes that night.

Tiffany- This is the california episode, isn’t it?

Rob- People defend themselves even in anti-gun California.

Tiffany- Of course they are. Thousands of us need to defend ourselves every day.

Rob- Would you explain why lethal force was justified in this case?

Tiffany- At home, dark of night, the intruder didn’t stop when confronted.

Rob- What does it mean by shooting until the attacker stopped?

Tiffany- We’re employing the firearm as a tool. It can stop a person from attacking us or other innocent parties. Once that attack is stopped, then our justification for using lethal force stops also. You may have every right to shoot a criminal who has broken into your home and shows every sign of attacking you. Once the criminal turns to run, you have to stop shooting because the attacker is no longer a threat.

Rob- What do you tell your students to do?

Tiffany- you don’t have much warning. By the time you knew there was a problem, the intruder was already in your home. There were several family members in the home, so you probably don’t have time to gather together and barricade behind your bedroom door. That limits your options, so you might have to confront an intruder as this man did.

Exit- Rob- And speaking of ??? that wraps up this episode. Tiffany, thank you for helping us again. Where can we learn more about you?

Tiffany- My website is Front Sight Press and I instruct at Citizens Safety Academy and Rangemaster

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tiffany-  We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 100 with Tiffany Johnson

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 100 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Tiffany Johnson as co-host this week.

Hi, Tiffany. This is your first episode. Please say hello.

Tiffany- Hi, Rob.

Rob- Now that you’ve introduced yourself, please introduce our podcast.

Tiffany- Each week we study three recent examples of armed defense. Our first story took place last week in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Here is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed as you go to work?

You have to arrive at work before 6AM. It is still dark when you follow other cars into the lot. You park, and before you can get out of your car, another car pulls up right behind you. There is a man with a gun standing at your door. You’re armed  and have your concealed carry license. It isn’t clear from the story if you shot while you were seated or if you got out of the car first.

The car behind you takes off. You call police. They said your attacker had two felony convictions.

Tiffany- have a gun

Rob-

Tiffany- have a plan. Are you going to defend yourself from inside your car? Have you practiced that?

Rob- Where would your students learn to present a firearm while they were sitting down?

Tiffany- call the police, follow instructions

Tiffany- Our second story happened last week in Hemet, California.

Rob- Second Story-  Do you have a gun accessible at night?

You are a couple in your 70s. It is after midnight when you hear someone break into your home. The male homeowner gets out of bed and grabs his firearm. He finds a stranger in the bathroom. The intruder attacks the male homeowner. Eventually, you shoot your attacker..and so does the female homeowner..with her 357 revolver.

The intruder runs away. He is out on parole with a long record of convictions.

Tiffany- disparity of force

Tiffany- hard to combine a physical struggle and a gun fight. This takes training and practice since guns are usually distance tools.

Rob- Where would your students learn to use a firearm on an attacker that is within arms reach.

Tiffany- Our third story happened last week in Swansboro, North Carolina

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you are driving your car?

You’re driving your car down the road at 9 in the morning. You notice a police car ahead. The officer and another man are wrestling in the ditch at the side of the road. You stop your car. As you walk towards the officer you draw your firearm. The suspect sees your gun and rolls over on his stomach.

You holster your firearm as police arrive. The vehicle the officer stopped was being used as a meth lab. The suspect was charged with possession of methamphetamine, resisting a public officer, possession of drug paraphernalia and driving with a revoked license.

Tiffany- third party- innocence

Tiffany- good that he had a gun

Tiffany- He didn’t need to use it, but it was a persuasive and deciding deterrent.

Rob- Do you talk about defending a third party with your students?

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tiffany, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Tiffany- My website is Front Sight Press and I instruct at Citizens Safety Academy and Rangemaster

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.

Tiffany- We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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