Episode 108 with Jeff Street

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 108 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Jeff Street with us as co-host.

Hi, Jeff.  How have you been?

Jeff- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been at TacCon, and teaching a lot of people how to draw and re-holster safely

Rob- And I was at the NRA convention.  I also took a medical first responder class. Good stuff, but tourniquets leave bruises. Ouch. Jeff, Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Jeff- We study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation because they were armed. What should you do in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Belleview, Florida.  This is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You drive up to your home. As you walk  towards the door, you notice a window is broken. Rather than go inside, you call your sister for help. She drives over, and she has her gun. You shout that you’re home, and a man shouts back. He grabs his backpack and runs into the woods. You get a picture of him on your phone.

The police bring a K9 unit and the dog soon finds the burglar. The police find evidence on the intruder, and personal property bagged inside the home. The burglar is charged with burglary and larceny.

The judge initially assigned a 12 thousand dollar bond, but then reviewed the burglar’s criminal history of burglary, grand theft and trafficking in stolen property and revoked bail.

Jeff- Broken window vs 3m Security film


Didn’t go inside / good

When we 1st arrive home we are in condition yellow (just like outside) until we are satisfied it is safe.

Called armed sister / how about carrying a gun yourself?

How about calling 911?

Yelling “I’m home.” from outside worked out ok this time.

Getting a picture of him on your cell phone / yes be a good witness as long as your not putting yourself into unreasonable danger.

Jeff- Our second story happened last week in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed on the street?   

You’re a small 23 year old woman. It is about three in the afternoon and you’re walking down the street. A man pushes you from behind. He grabs your purse and tries to run away. You hang on and fight him. He hits you. You draw your handgun and shoot your attacker once in the chest. He starts to run and then falls. You stand there for a minute, then run into a nearby store. You drop your gun as you enter. Another customer steps out of the store and picks it up and brings in inside the store. You call police.

You received your carry permit last year. You bought your gun and started carrying last week.

Jeff- Small woman with the great equalizer (a firearm)

When are they going to start putting gps trackers into purses?

Where was the firearm? Was it in the purse and she managed to get to it in the struggle?

If so probably not the scenario she imagined when she chose purse carry.

We need to think about how we are going to safely re-holster our gun after the incident while under duress.

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In a more perfect purse scenario, nothing of real value is in the purse.  Credit card and defensive tools are on body.

One shot to the chest and the fight was over.  Excellent!

A witness called 911.  He refers to the attacker that is now on the ground as the “victim”.

Once that thought is placed in the 911 operators head, the witness has a difficult time getting through to the 911 operators the reality of the circumstances.

How about saying; to 911 the threat is over I need and ambulance and law enforcement.  The attacker has been shot. The firearm has been secured by a 3rd party. Currently everyone on site is safe.  We need an ambulance for the attacker.

That seems difficult.  What we need to do after hearing a SDGS is to write down and practice what we would say.  We can look it over and think about how the 911 operator will react to our words.

It took her a year after getting a permit to buy a gun.  Maybe she received additional training in the meantime?

Rob- We need to practice what we want to say, and also practice when we need to be quiet.

Jeff- Our third story happened last week in Mexia, (Meh-hay-ha)Texas.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re at home?  

It is a weekday morning when someone rings your doorbell and wakes you up. You answer the door and the stranger asks if someone lives there. You say that person doesn’t live there and probably never did. You watch the stranger walk away. He walks towards the trees, but doesn’t leave. You lock your door. You wake your teenage daughter and tell her to get your the bedroom with the dogs. Your daughter calls 911.

You hear the crash of breaking glass coming from the front of your house. You grab your gun from the side table and step into the hall. The intruder is back and has a shovel raised over his head.

You point your gun at him and say, “If you take one more step I’ll kill you.” He runs.

You lock your bedroom door and wait for the police. They arrive 14 minutes later. They find the intruder in a nearby trailer park and arrest him for burglary

Jeff-  It was a weekday morning.  Were you expecting company?  Even so make him tell you through the door why they are there?  Don’t open the door and say “you must be the repairman i called”.

Our home owner was not wearing a gun when she answered the door

Our home owner looked through the blinds to see if the creepy guy left.  Creepy guy may have noticed this. Video surveillance cameras would have been handy.

When creepy guy didn’t leave they called 911.  Good move.

You hear a crash of breaking glass. Please get some 3m security film installed.

Grab your gun instead of wearing your gun.

“Take one more step and i will kill you” and the gun pointed at him was enough to change his mind this time.

After all this, it takes 14 minutes for the police to arrive.  When it comes to immediate safety for you and your family, you are on your own.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Jeff, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Jeff- You can find me at Step by Step Gun Training in Naples Florida.  We provide custom training courses as well as group classes. Our listeners can leave me a message for us on the Step by Step Facebook page.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Jeff- We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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