Episode 63 with Robyn Street

Rob- Introduction- I’m Rob Morse and welcome to episode 63 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This show is for  people who think they might want a gun for self-defense, and those who already have one.  We’re joined this week by self-defense instructor Robyn Street.

It has been a while since we’ve talked.  I know you’ve been busy.

Robyn – I have been busy.  Lots of training and range events.  It is fun and exciting but definitely busy.  I hear that you recently took a class.

Rob-  My wife and I took the beginning class for armed civilians put on by the Massad Ayoob Group.

Robyn- I am glad that we have had a chance to catch up and let’s not forget to say

Hi to our new listeners, and welcome back to our regular listeners.

You know that I use our self defense gun stories with my Well Armed Woman Group.  It is a great way to prepare for what might happen.  Let’s get started reporting and analyzing our three examples of armed civilian defense.  We hope you use these reports as part of your exercise program.. to exercise your imagination today so you can defend the people you care about tomorrow.  Please leave us a message on our facebook page with your questions or comments.

Robyn- Our first story took place last week in Houston, Texas.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home early in the morning?  You’re home with your family.  Your brother and his family live next door.  It is about 4 am when you hear sounds from your brother’s house.  You hear shouts and screams. And that gets you moving.  You grab your rifle and head next door.  You approach their house and the front door is open.  Someone is inside, and they start to run.  You enter the house and strangers are heading from the bedroom toward the back door.  You look in the bedroom and see your relatives tied up.  One of their attackers is armed, and you start shooting.  You shoot two of the attackers, but two of them got away.

Your relatives, including your niece two nephews, were roughed up, but not injured.

Robyn- Victim needs to harden their home

Rob- There are layers over layers to this story.  How could you slow down the attackers and give you more time.  What would you do once your home was invaded.  How would you gather and defend your family.  You can’t invent those plans in the moment.

Robyn – You need to talk with your family ahead of time.  One part of the family was used as hostages to get compliance from the other parts of the family.  Escape out the window if you must.

Rob- The robbers were armed.

Robyn- Call 911 and get help on the way.  Call family members to see if they are OK.  He did not even know what was going on when he headed over with his rifle.

Robyn – How did the attacker get into the home?  We are told the door was open.  (really? RM)

Robyn – Would you really want to be walking around with a rifle? .  How would frightened family members/police/other responders react?

Rob- How does your choice of firearm matter?

Robyn – Definitely need a good flashlight so you can identify the attackers.  You don’t want to shoot your family on accident.

Rob- Some of the attackers were shot in the back yard.

Robyn – If the attackers are running away let them go.  If they are still presenting a deadly threat then you would have to defend yourself and your family members.

Rob- what would you tell your students about this story?

Robyn – If you want to be a hero, start now by helping others prepare for/prevent a potential attack.  Encourage them to listen to SDGS and discuss preparations and awareness with them.

Robyn- Our second story happened last week in Asheville, North Carolina

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed when you stop at a convenience store in the evening?  You’re waiting your turn in the checkout line. Two teenagers come into the store and start yelling.  It was hard to understand them.  Then you saw that they had weapons in their hands and were yelling at the store clerk.  That was easy to understand.  The clerk opened the cash drawer.  One of the robbers shot a taser at the clerk, and missed.  You have your concealed carry permit.  You are carrying.  The second robber raises his firearm, and you’re afraid he’s going to kill the clerk.  You draw and shoot the armed robber.  The two robbers run from the store.

The clerk and the two other customers in the store are uninjured.  The clerk calls police.  You tell them your story.  The police look at the store video and then let you go home.

Robyn- Good for you for having your firearm with you.  Prepared for a potential attack.

Rob- the robbers showed they were willing to use force because they tazed the clerk.  That grabs everyone’s attention.

Robyn- Tunnel vision.

Rob- What else did you notice?

Robyn- Obviously wasn’t a physical stopping shot since the attackers were able to run away.  It was a psychological stopping shot since the attackers decided to change their plans and run away.

Rob- You’re in a gun battle with multiple moving attackers.

Robyn – If I would have been in line and was not the focus of the attack, I would have been looking for other attackers and avenues of escape.  I am not responsible for the safety of everyone in the store.  It is a decision that each person has to make.  By inserting yourself into the situation, you are risking life, liberty and your finances to defend others.  It is a decision that you should think about now…What would you do?

Rob- You’re talking about planning again, aren’t you.

Robyn- It sounds so simple to describe the situation now, but it will feel all-consuming in the moment it happens.  Of course, this situation could quickly evolve to include you as the focus of this attack.  If you are threatened with death, you would have to defend yourself.  

Rob- and by that point you might have given up the element of surprise.  This isn’t an easy decision.

Robyn- Our third story happened last week in Grady county, Oklahoma.  That makes two stories where a third party saved other people being threatened.  Are you going for all three this week?

Rob- You’ll find out after this message for Coloradans for Civil Liberties.

Please support Coloradans for Civil Liberties

Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re at home at two in the morning?  You’re asleep in your bed when you hear a loud bang.  You and your wife sit up.  Your three kids are down the hall. You hear more noises from the front of the house and you grab your firearm to investigate.  You run into an intruder.  Your gun is up and you yell for him to leave.  You walk him to your front door and yell for him to get on his knees.  The intruder walks through your broken front door and kneels.  You hear your wife talking to police behind you.  The police are already on their way because a neighbor called about an intruder who tried to get into her front door.

Your wife stays on the phone and describes the situation to police. They arrest a known drug user who admitted to using methamphetamine and LSD.  The family were uninjured.

Robyn – Your neighbor must had a better door than you.  Harden your home.

Rob- It sounds like this family had a plan.  Mom grabbed the phone.

Robyn – Prepare your family now so everyone know what is expected if someone breaks in.  

Rob- teamwork

Robyn – Wife’s actions were essential.  You can’t hold someone at gunpoint, call the police and make sure that your children are OK.  Teamwork.

Rob- the homeowner grabbed the intruder.

Robyn- If the attacker is willing to go away and no longer pose a threat to you and your family, I would let them go.  Learning how to properly detain someone and/or clearing a house requires training.  Think about what would you might have to do do now and prepare yourself.

Rob- I’ve shot with you.  Do you have that training?  Not many of us do.

Exit- Rob- That wraps up this episode. Robyn, thank you for helping me today.  Where can our listeners learn more about you?

Robyn- I teach in Naples Florida, and listeners can find me at Step by Step Gun Training.com.  We provide custom training courses as well as group classes.  They can also contact us on Facebook.

Rob- Our listeners can share their thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Robyn-  If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network.  We create this podcast under a creative commons license, so please share them with a friend, and give us a rating on I-Tunes.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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