Episode 109 with Tony Simon

Can you protect yourself at home, at work, and on the street? Firearms instructor Tony Simon brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. What would you do in these situations?

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 109 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Tony Simon as co-host.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?

Tony- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been working on getting the 2A4E podcast on iTunes, Anchor, Pocket Cast, Overcast and Radio Public. Finding sponsors for our Minuteman Challenge events.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Tony- We study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation because they were armed. What would you in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Trinity, Alabama.  Here’s what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You hear your back door breaking at 2 in the morning. You and your roommate go to investigate. There is an armed stranger in your home. You tell him to get out and he attacks both of you with a knife. You’re cut, but you run and get your gun. You run back to the fight. You start shooting when your roommate gets clear of his attacker.

You call police and ask for medical transport. You and your roommate go to the hospital to have your wounds treated. Your attacker is taken to the morgue. Only three days ago, your attacker was charged with assault, kidnapping and domestic abuse after he attacked his girlfriend.

Rob- What do you see, Tony?

Tony-  The door was locked and the intruder had to make noise breaking into the home. That alerted the residents that there was a problem. Too many people don’t lock their doors because they live in a “good “ neighborhood. Securing your door gives you time to react when a bad guy attempts to get into your home. Good locks, a solid door and a sturdy door frame means your home is harder to crack.

Rob- How much does it cost to buy myself another 30 seconds during a breakin?

Tony- The two roommates went to investigate what they obviously thought could have been a break in. “Plan for the worst and hope for the best.” isn’t just a old saying, it’s good advice. Take your defensive tool with you, in this case they should’ve taken the firearm with them. If it was a false alarm then walking around armed wouldn’t have been a big deal. Having to fight off a knife wielding bad guy is a big deal.

Rob- What about a flashlight?

Tony- Too many people feel a knife isn’t as deadly as a firearm and it’s “unfair” to shoot someone that’s only armed with a knife. A knife is a deadly close combat weapon that you don’t have to be very skilled with to be deadly, it’s as dangerous as a gun at close distances and it doesn’t jam or run out of bullets. When armed with a gun against a knife wielding attacker distance is your ally. If you can move behind something and create distance it’s going to be advantageous for you. A bad guy that has to run around furniture and down a hallway to stab you has a much higher risk of being shot multiple times than a bad guy that only has to take a couple of steps to stab you.

Our second story happened last week in Gainesville, Florida.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you walk home from the movies?

Your family is coming home from a late movie. While the car is parked, a stranger walks up and presents a gun. The robber demands your money and your car. The story isn’t clear if you got out of the car, but you shot the robber several times. The robber ran to a waiting car. The robber and his accomplis drove away and they crashed a few blocks away. The accomplice fled and the attacker died. Police recovered the attacker’s gun at the scene of the crime. Family members blame the robbery victims for the attacker’s injuries.

Tony, what should we do if a group of us are attacked?

Tony-  If your family or usual circle of friends know you carry concealed you need to tell them to not “out “ you as the “good guy with a gun”. You may or may not choose to use your firearm during an armed encounter. You may be able to de-escalate the situation, distract the bad guys or other options.

Tony- This bad guy was shot multiple times with a handgun and he ran away. Handgun wounds usually make people stop what they are doing and run away. Defenders need to be prepared to shoot until the bad guys stop attacking and then stop shooting as soon as they aren’t a threat.

Tony- Our third story happened last week in Memphis, Tennessee.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you leave McDonald’s with your child?

It is the middle of the afternoon. You are walking out of the restaurant with your infant in your arms. Four men get out of their car and attack you. You defend yourself. You draw a gun and shoot your attackers. They drive away. All four were arrested for aggravated robbery. One of the robbers was charged for being a felon in possession of a firearm.

Tony-  This is a nightmare that no parent wants to face. Having to use a firearm while holding your child and facing multiple attackers. This requires skills that few people ever practice because they can’t imagine it happening.

Tony- As a armed parents this is a scenario that should be viewed as a possibility. Melody Lauer of Citizens Defense Research is one of the few instructors that teaches how to handle this exact scenario in her class “Contextual Handgun: The Armed Parent“.

Rob- I’ll put a link in the show notes.

Tony- Learning to shoot and move while hitting your target is important as is learning to fire accurately using one hand. These are skills that need to be practiced to become competent doing as an armed citizen.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Tony- My website is Diversityshoot.com You can find me on Instagram and facebook at Simon Says Train and The 2nd is For Everyone.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network. We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 108 with Jeff Street

Can you protect yourself at home, at work, and on the street? Firearms instructor Jeff Street brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (17 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 108 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Jeff Street with us as co-host.

Hi, Jeff.  How have you been?

Jeff- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been at TacCon, and teaching a lot of people how to draw and re-holster safely

Rob- And I was at the NRA convention.  I also took a medical first responder class. Good stuff, but tourniquets leave bruises. Ouch. Jeff, Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Jeff- We study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn.  These gun owners survived a life threatening situation because they were armed. What should you do in their place?

Our first story took place last week in Belleview, Florida.  This is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You drive up to your home. As you walk  towards the door, you notice a window is broken. Rather than go inside, you call your sister for help. She drives over, and she has her gun. You shout that you’re home, and a man shouts back. He grabs his backpack and runs into the woods. You get a picture of him on your phone.

The police bring a K9 unit and the dog soon finds the burglar. The police find evidence on the intruder, and personal property bagged inside the home. The burglar is charged with burglary and larceny.

The judge initially assigned a 12 thousand dollar bond, but then reviewed the burglar’s criminal history of burglary, grand theft and trafficking in stolen property and revoked bail.

Jeff- Broken window vs 3m Security film

Alarm?

Didn’t go inside / good

When we 1st arrive home we are in condition yellow (just like outside) until we are satisfied it is safe.

Called armed sister / how about carrying a gun yourself?

How about calling 911?

Yelling “I’m home.” from outside worked out ok this time.

Getting a picture of him on your cell phone / yes be a good witness as long as your not putting yourself into unreasonable danger.

Jeff- Our second story happened last week in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed on the street?   

You’re a small 23 year old woman. It is about three in the afternoon and you’re walking down the street. A man pushes you from behind. He grabs your purse and tries to run away. You hang on and fight him. He hits you. You draw your handgun and shoot your attacker once in the chest. He starts to run and then falls. You stand there for a minute, then run into a nearby store. You drop your gun as you enter. Another customer steps out of the store and picks it up and brings in inside the store. You call police.

You received your carry permit last year. You bought your gun and started carrying last week.

Jeff- Small woman with the great equalizer (a firearm)

When are they going to start putting gps trackers into purses?

Where was the firearm? Was it in the purse and she managed to get to it in the struggle?

If so probably not the scenario she imagined when she chose purse carry.

We need to think about how we are going to safely re-holster our gun after the incident while under duress.

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In a more perfect purse scenario, nothing of real value is in the purse.  Credit card and defensive tools are on body.

One shot to the chest and the fight was over.  Excellent!

A witness called 911.  He refers to the attacker that is now on the ground as the “victim”.

Once that thought is placed in the 911 operators head, the witness has a difficult time getting through to the 911 operators the reality of the circumstances.

How about saying; to 911 the threat is over I need and ambulance and law enforcement.  The attacker has been shot. The firearm has been secured by a 3rd party. Currently everyone on site is safe.  We need an ambulance for the attacker.

That seems difficult.  What we need to do after hearing a SDGS is to write down and practice what we would say.  We can look it over and think about how the 911 operator will react to our words.

It took her a year after getting a permit to buy a gun.  Maybe she received additional training in the meantime?

Rob- We need to practice what we want to say, and also practice when we need to be quiet.

Jeff- Our third story happened last week in Mexia, (Meh-hay-ha)Texas.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re at home?  

It is a weekday morning when someone rings your doorbell and wakes you up. You answer the door and the stranger asks if someone lives there. You say that person doesn’t live there and probably never did. You watch the stranger walk away. He walks towards the trees, but doesn’t leave. You lock your door. You wake your teenage daughter and tell her to get your the bedroom with the dogs. Your daughter calls 911.

You hear the crash of breaking glass coming from the front of your house. You grab your gun from the side table and step into the hall. The intruder is back and has a shovel raised over his head.

You point your gun at him and say, “If you take one more step I’ll kill you.” He runs.

You lock your bedroom door and wait for the police. They arrive 14 minutes later. They find the intruder in a nearby trailer park and arrest him for burglary

Jeff-  It was a weekday morning.  Were you expecting company?  Even so make him tell you through the door why they are there?  Don’t open the door and say “you must be the repairman i called”.

Our home owner was not wearing a gun when she answered the door

Our home owner looked through the blinds to see if the creepy guy left.  Creepy guy may have noticed this. Video surveillance cameras would have been handy.

When creepy guy didn’t leave they called 911.  Good move.

You hear a crash of breaking glass. Please get some 3m security film installed.

Grab your gun instead of wearing your gun.

“Take one more step and i will kill you” and the gun pointed at him was enough to change his mind this time.

After all this, it takes 14 minutes for the police to arrive.  When it comes to immediate safety for you and your family, you are on your own.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Jeff, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Jeff- You can find me at Step by Step Gun Training in Naples Florida.  We provide custom training courses as well as group classes. Our listeners can leave me a message for us on the Step by Step Facebook page.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Jeff- We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 107 with Robyn Street

Can you protect yourself at home, at work, and on the street? Firearms instructor Robyn Street brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (18 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 107 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a gun for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m Rob Morse and we have firearms instructor Robyn Street as co-host.

Hi, Robyn.  How have you been?

Robyn- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been busy. Lots of training for myself and for my students.  How have you been doing?

Rob- I’ve been to the range several times, sometimes for my training and sometimes with new students.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Robyn- We study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn. Were these gun owners lucky, or were they good?  These stories also document cases when an armed citizen was able to defend themselves. We often hear about firearms when they are used to commit violent acts, but we do not often hear when armed citizens survive potentially deadly attacks because they are armed.  Next time you are asked “why do you need a firearm” share one of these stories. Our first story took place last week in Iredell County, North Carolina. Here’s what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

It is sunrise on Sunday morning. You hear your dog bark. Your wife and two young kids are asleep, so you pad downstairs to see what is bothering the dog. A man is standing inside your screen porch trying to get into your house. You grab your 22 rifle and walk out the side door. You enter your porch and tell the man to lie down. He does. You call police.

The policeman fights with the suspect to take him into custody. The intruder faces charges of breaking and entering, possession of a Schedule IV controlled substance, possession of drug paraphernalia and resisting a public officer.

Robyn- Not a time or place we would think of being at risk.  We need to be prepared at all times.

Rob- Your back porch on a Sunday morning is usually a place to relax and read the paper.

Robyn- Dogs are a great alarm system.

Rob- Dogs vs electronics?

Robyn- If the intruder is not in the house, then stay safe inside.  Harden your home now so that it can provide the most amount of protection possible.

Rob- What would you tell your students to do in this case?

Robyn- Have a plan, gather your family in the most defensible location.  Call 911 and get help on the way. 911 is recorded and can be used as evidence if necessary.

Rob- Gun, family, phone..In what order?

Robyn-a 22 rifle might not be the best caliber choice but it beats not having anything.  Several of the people that shoot with us are using 9mm carbines. Some of the carbines even use the same magazines as their pistols.

Rob- What do you like about them?

Robyn – I am glad that it worked out for the homeowner, but it is not our job to hold someone until the police arrive.  The robber was rummaging through his pockets and producing drug paraphernalia. What if he would have had a weapon in his pocket?

Rob- Say more about that.

Robyn- If our homeowner had more training, he would not have held the intruder. If the intruder moved to take something from the intruder’s pockets, the homeowner should have shot him. That is tough to explain in court, and is why we don’t hold suspect for the police.

Robyn- The homeowner mentioned that he did not want to shoot anyone, but that he would if that is what it would take to defend his family.  We need to make that decision now to lessen the likelihood of hesitation if we have to protect ourselves or our family.

Rob- Our homeowner hesitated, but he was safe this time.

Robyn- This  homeowner was lucky, but we can’t count on luck. Our second story happened last week in Tucson, Arizona.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed when you go shopping?   

It is dark outside. You finished your shopping and walk to your car. You set your purse and packages inside. You try to close your car door, but a man has grabbed the door. He tells you to get out of your car and give him the keys. He shouts at you. You grab your gun from your purse. You step out of your car and point your gun at your attacker. He has a hatchet in his hand. You tell him to leave. He raises his hand and you shoot him once in the center of the chest. He falls. You keep your gun on him and shout for people coming out of the store to call police.

Robyn- Don’t hesitate to ask mall security officers or grocery store employees to escort you to your car.  You are less likely to be attacked if you are not alone.

Rob- We hear about that during the Christmas shopping rush, but it happens all the time.

Robyn-If it is “dark” outside have your flashlight in hand and scanning the environment.  It sends a message that you are aware of your environment. Added bonus, the bad person has probably only seen police officers using a flashlight.

Rob- The light says you’re not their usual victim.

Robyn-It appears that the victim was distracted when transitioning to the car.  The attacker was close enough to grab the car door. Be aware and prepared. As soon as possible. Lock the doors, start the car and get out of the parking lot.

Rob- What should we do if we see someone standing in the parking lot and they are not moving towards their car?

Robyn- It would have been better is she could have been the first to call 911.  As I was reading the story, it was mentioned that she held the attacker until the police arrived.  It is not our job to hold the attacker. In most cases, I would say that the victim should get away from the attacker.  The police can catch them later.

Robyn- Our third story happened last week in Saint, Louis Missouri.

 

Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re at home?  

You’re in your bedroom at the back of the house. It is 9:30 at night when you hear shouting from the front door. Then you hear gunshots and you hear one of your housemates shout in pain. You grab your gun and walk toward the noise. An older man who lives at the house is on his knees and looks hurt. A stranger is standing in the front room yelling that he wants his money. The stranger raises his gun and you shoot the intruder. Now he runs. You call police and EMTs.

The police arrest the wounded robber and take him to the hospital.

Robyn- That did not turn out as the robber had planned.  Harden your home to make it difficult for a bad person to get to you.  Keep the doors locked.

Rob- Seconds count. How should we have our gun?

Robyn- I am glad the friends of the victim had immediate access to their firearm.  They did not suffer from disbelief and denial. The situation was bad and they took immediate action to stop the situation.

Rob- This all happened very fast.

Robyn- In this case after the attacker was shot in the leg, the attacker decided to run away.  As he was running away, he was still firing his gun. Another neighbor started to fire at the attacker.  This is very troubling. We are responsible for every round that we fire. You have to know your target, what is around it, behind it and beside it.  Luckily no other bystanders were hit in this exchange. My advise, if the attacker is running away, let him go. As so as it is safe to do so, call the police.  Get help on the way. The police can find him later.

Robyn- The first victim was shot.  This highlights the importance of medical training and medical kits.  You are the first responder for yourself, your family and your friends.

Robyn-We need to train to have good situational awareness, plan for what ifs and worst case scenarios, study the laws, maximize our physical fitness and practice with our firearms to become as proficient as possible.  

Robyn- These stories are a great training tool.  They actually happened to someone else. We know what they did.  What would you do?

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Robyn, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Robyn- You can find me at Step by Step Gun Training in Naples Florida.  We provide custom training courses as well as group classes.  Our listeners can leave me a message for us on the Step by Step Facebook page.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Robyn-  We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 106 with David Cole

Can you protect yourself at home and at work? Firearms instructor David Cole brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (16 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 106 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. Firearms instructor David Cole with us as co-host.

Hi, David.  How have you been?

David- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been building an 80% Glock 19, shooting USPSA, and getting ready for the NRA Annual Meeting.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

David- Each week we study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn. What should we do if we were in their situation. Our first story took place last week in Raleigh, North Carolina.  Here’s what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?

Someone knocks at your front door at 430 in the morning. A few seconds later there is yelling from your front room. Two armed men are shouting orders. You grab your gun. These two strangers point a gun at you and you shoot them. You shoot them both. Your son is hurt. It isn’t clear from news reports whether he was struck by gunfire or hit by the robbers. You grab your son and drive him to the hospital.

Neighbors hear the gunshots and call 911. The police find one robber dead in your home. They arrest the second robber when he goes to the hospital.

You’re attacker has been arrested at least 8 times before. His latest arrest was only two months ago for robbery. This time he is charged with armed robbery, conspiracy to commit armed robbery, first-degree burglary and firearms possession by a felon.

 

David- This one sounds pretty bad, but it certainly could have been much worse. The good news is that the homeowner had a gun and was able to get to it quickly enough to respond to the attack. A good rule of thumb is POGO…Pants On, Gun On. When you’re asleep, you do need some sort of secure storage such as a speed safe or similar, once you’re up the best place for your gun is on your person.

Rob- When do your students learn about where to store their firearms so they can get to them?

David- CCW classes teach that material.

Rob- If you have your concealed carry permit, do you even know how to draw a gun quickly and safely?

David- As far as the ability to quickly engage multiple targets accurately…you know where I stand on that, Rob. First of all, go get some training in defensive pistol shooting. Both the NRA and Second Amendment Foundation offer defensive pistol classes, and there are plenty of other instructors out there as well. Then to keep those skills sharp…and improve them…I’m a big fan of action pistol competition such as USPSA and IDPA.

Rob- If you had to guess, how many of your students compete?

David- Our second story happened last week, and was right next to Raleigh, North Carolina.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at work.

It is late at night at this convenience store. A man comes in. You watch him. Rather than select an item, the customer walks directly to the counter. The man has a gun in his hand, and it is pointed at you. You push him away and try to run to the back room. He follows you.

It isn’t clear if your gun was kept in the back room of if kept your gun on you. You shoot your attacker. He runs.

You call police..and so does your attacker. Your attacker said he was shot in a drive by shooting. The police see the surveillance video from your store and arrest your attacker in the hospital. He is charged with armed robbery and aggravated assault.

-Please carry your gun on you. You don’t want to spend the rest of your life trying to get a gun to defend yourself.

Rob- David, how does a gun owner get his permit?

David- Of course, all states are different, but most require that you take some sort of class, and then take the certificate of completion from that class to apply for your permit. One website I recommend to learn about state laws regarding permitting and other topics surrounding concealed carry is handgunlaw.us  I have found them to be a reliable source for state firearms laws, as well as the NRA-ILA website.

Rob- Where would he then learn to shoot as he moves, and to shoot at very close targets?

David- Again, a good defensive pistol class such as offered by the NRA, SAF or others is the best place to start if you have never done that type of shooting before. I have shot the NRA course, but have not tried the SAF version yet. And my personal opinion is that if you have the time and money, the Gunsite Academy 250 Pistol class is the gold standard.

 

David- Our third story happened last week in Gaffney, South Carolina.

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Rob- Third story- Do you have a way to defend yourself in the early morning?

You hear a knock at your door. It is 3:30 in the morning. Your boyfriend answers the door and ask why they are knocking at that hour. Two armed men push the door open and throw your boyfriend against the wall. He breaks the wall as he hits it. The two intruders are armed. The one in front has a shotgun, and your boyfriend grabs it. You grab your gun.

The story isn’t clear if you had your gun with you or if you had to retrieve it. You shoot the large man fighting with your boyfriend. The attacker drops to the floor. The other intruder runs away. You call the police. Your attacker was pronounced dead at the scene from a shot to the head.

David- This is an interesting one, though we are missing some details. From the news story, it sounds like the defender shot the attacker at very close range. You are right that it is a difficult problem to solve, shooting in defense of another while tangled up in physical combat. Besides concerns of making an accurate shot, you also need to consider the angle of the shot. If the shot fully penetrates the bad guy, where is it going to go? I think you would want to get close enough to be 100% confident in your shot placement. And for the record, I decline your invitation to a tickle fight!

David- Both of our home invasion stories this week featured homeowners who opened the door without knowing who was outside. Both occurred during the very early morning hours, and although we don’t know how these folks lived, I know that I would find a knock on the door at 3 or 4 AM to be very suspicious. I don’t believe I would answer that knock, and I definitely would challenge the person outside to identify themselves before I even thought about opening the door. You know for sure that if I did open it, I’d be armed.

David- Another option is something called a wide-angle peephole. We’ve all seen the standard peepholes in hotel room doors, and although they’re better than nothing, it can be hard to see very well through them. A better option is a wide-angle peephole, with a bigger lens and wider field of view which makes it much easier to see who’s out there. You can find them at places like Lowe’s and Home Depot, or on Amazon. Also, high tech options such as wireless surveillance cameras and video view doorbells are also becoming more common and less expensive.

 

Exit- Rob- That wraps up this episode. David, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

David- My training website is Aegis Solutions LLC on Facebook, and I’m also at BlackManWithAGun.com

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

David-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network. We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music and Spotify.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

Episode 105 with Elizabeth Hautman

Can you protect yourself at home, at work, and as you drive? Firearms instructor Elizabeth Hautman brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (18 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 105 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Elizabeth Hautman with us as co-host.

Hi, Elizabeth.  How have you been?

Elizabeth- Hi, Rob.  I’ve been busy setting up my spring schedule.  Now is the time to take advantage of mild temps and quiet weekends before summer kicks in.

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Elizabeth- Each week we study three new examples of armed defense to see what we can learn. What should we do if we were in their situation? Our first story took place last week in Hesperia, California.  Here is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Is your firearm available to you late in the evening?  

You’re at home late in the evening. You’re in bed when you hear a really loud crash from the front of your home. You grab your gun and go to investigate. A stranger is standing in the front room and your front window is gone. You yell for him to leave, and then shoot him when he doesn’t. Now the intruder leaves. You retreat to your bedroom and call police.

EMTs take the intruder to the hospital. The police recognize the intruder. Your intruder was arrested for a parole violation two months ago and was let out of jail four days ago.

The news media asks you to comment, and you don’t. Police Sgt. Marc Bracco said, “We’re glad when any homeowner protects themselves, that’s what they need to do in these situations. That’s why you’re allowed to carry a firearm in your residence.”

Elizabeth, how do you store your guns at night?  

Elizabeth- Well Rob, there are two answers to that and it really depends upon whether the kids are home or not.  I always lock up my firearms when the kids are home. No question about it. Even though they are responsible, older teens, with firearms experience, we all know teens can be unpredictable and moody.  Also, i’m happy to welcome their friends into the house. No telling what their gun education is. So kids in the house, guns locked up, kids at dad’s gun in by my bed. We always have to make compromises when it comes to firearms access.  I know some who sleep with a firearm under their pillow. I don’t understand that. My gun would be on the floor with the extra blanket and pillows and no use to me anyway. I trust my training to access my firearm efficiently when the time comes.

Secondly,  I am not searching through my home looking for the intruder.  What if I hear one guy and there are three, what if I am outgunned, and besides, there is nothing beyond my room worth getting hurt over.

Rob- When would your students learn to shoot in low light?

Elizabeth- Indoor range, simulators are great for that type of practice.  We are fortunate to have that type of trainer in my town.

Rob- Do you talk about calling the police and what to say when they arrive?

Elizabeth- Absolutely….

Elizabeth- Our second story happened last week in Memphis, Tennessee.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you drive your car?

You’re driving for Uber Eats to pick up a few dollars. It is a few minutes after midnight on a weekday night. Your wife is riding along as you drive. You pull into  IHOP and pick up the order. You hand her the order and sit in the driver’s seat when three young men approach your car. One of them puts a gun to the driver’s side window and tells you to get out of the car and hand him your keys and your money.

Your wife is in the car. You grab your handgun that is sitting in the center console. You shoot the attacker closest to your driver’s window. Some of the other robbers are shooting at your car. You open the door and shoot back at them.

They run. You and  your wife go inside and call the police. Two of the robbers were arrested at the hospital. The police said they may be connected to another robbery earlier that night.

Elizabeth, this is pretty advanced self-defense. You have to defend yourself from multiple attackers in the dark, and you have someone else to protect so you can’t run.

Rob- Where would we learn to carry in a car?

Elizabeth-   Again, one step at a time.  Really we don’t know what we don’t know.  I have worked with the unconscious incompetent.  The student doesn’t have an inkling what they don’t know.   Then they take a class and begin to see the total sum of completeness of what there is to know and they become the consciously incompetent.  So the student becomes aware of their shortcomings and then hopefully becomes motivated to learn more. Hopefully to progress to unconsciously competent where the right thing to do becomes automatic.  That comes from training, training and more training. Incorporating muscle memory into the drill and just knowing what to do. I believe we drive that way. I know I don’t have to tell myself to turn on the turn signal, it is an automatic maneuver for my turn.  I unconsciously know to do that before I initiate a turn. Firearms training is the same way. But only after much practice and training and coaching.

Rob- Suppose you have your carry permit. How could you safely practice drawing a firearm while you’re seated?  

Elizabeth- This is where tools like blue guns come into play.  I use them quite frequently in my class. They are simply plastic guns, that fit in my holster and have the look and feel of my real firearm, however, they are bright blue, and plastic.  

Elizabeth- Our third story happened last week in Roanoke, Virginia.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you’re walking down the street?

You’re working on equipment in a small business. It is late morning and you hear people scream outside. You look out the window and see a dog attack a young mother who is pushing a baby carriage. You walk to your car and grab your gun. An older man with a cane is hitting the dog and trying to protect the mother and child. The dog bites the older man. You run closer. Someone shoots the dog in the face with pepper spray. Someone grabs his collar and tries to choke the dog. Someone hits the dog with a hammer. Finally the dog lets go and the victims scatter. You shoot the dog. You have to shoot the dog a second time to stop him.

An animal control officer comes to take the dog away. He’d seen this dog before after the dog bit someone.

Elizabeth- He had a gun. I wish it was on him rather than in his truck.

Rob- This isn’t easy. We don’t usually think of animals as a target.

Elizabeth-  I carry pepper spray because of animals.  Very often I believe that I would rather spray a dog because they are just doing what comes naturally to them, in this case, however, the pepper spray didn’t work.  There may be a few reasons for that. Not all pepper spray is created equally. I recommend one with tested high levels of capsaicinoids. Really hot. Also practice with them.  They sell practice sprays that are just water so you can check your aim and try it first.

Rob- This was on a city street in the middle of the day.

Elizabeth- Remember the four safety rules? One of them is to know your target and what lies around it. Could anyone move between you and the dog as you shoot. You’re probably shooting down at the dog. Where will your bullets go if they bounce off the street?

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Elizabeth, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Elizabeth- I instruct in Colorado Springs.  I teach small classes at my private range in Black Forest.  Students can contact me at Colorado Boots Firearms Instruction.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Elizabeth-  We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 104 with Amanda Suffecool

Can you protect yourself at home, at work, and as you drive? Firearms instructor Amanda Suffecool brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (16 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 104 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Amanda Suffecool with us as co-host.

Hi, Amanda.  How have you been?

Amanda- Hi, Rob.  We just had our fundraising event. We raised enough to support our programs for more than 6 months of the year. That covers our firearm education program called Realize Firearms Awareness Coalition. We also got a grant from the NRA to support our Woman’s Day On the Range program.  They are giving us a gun, ammo, targets and supplies. This really helps…

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Amanda- Each week we study three new examples of armed defense. What should we do if we were in their situation. Our first story took place last week in Miami Gardens, Florida.  Here’s what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?

You hear a loud thump from the front of your house. It is midday and you wonder if there was a traffic accident on the highway nearby. Then you hear it again and again. Your two kids are screaming. Someone is trying to break down your front door. You shout for your children to come to you. They are 10 and 3. They follow you to your bedroom and you tell them to stay there. The robber keeps banging and kicking at your door. You grab your shotgun. After a dozen attempts the door gives way. The robber comes face to face with a loaded shotgun. He runs. You call police.

Amanda, it seems this mom did a lot of things right.

Amanda-   the best way to win the confrontation is to avoid the confrontation.  She retreated, and then provided the defensive plan – should she have to use it.

Rob- Did the homeowner have the right to use lethal force and to press the trigger?

Amanda-  I think this was a WIN above all.  He was gone, she was safe, her kids know that MOM will defend but does not need to take (the final action) unless and until it’s called for.

Rob- Do you talk about this with your students?

Amanda- Our second story happened last week in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you drive and to shopping after work?

You’re buying an iPhone. You found the seller online. You agree to meet after work. You drive up and start the sale. You examine the phone. You want it so you count out the cash. Then the seller pulls a gun out of his pocket and tells you to give him all your money. You hand it over. You also draw your firearm and shoot the robber. Then you run.

Later, you call police. They arrest the robber as he sought treatment at a local hospital.

Amanda-   This is one where the shooter-defender is once again having to defend their position.  Because once they fire – they are going to have to tell the police WHY they were in fear for their lives.   In this case it’s easy – there was an untrustworthy lowlife pointing a gun at you.

Rob- What would you tell your students to do in this situation?

Amanda-  Only one bit of advice – maybe two.  Aim better,

Rob- When do your students learn where to aim, and maybe how to shoot a target that is only a few feet away?

Amanda- Shooting at 5 yards is easy. 50 yards is hard, and half a yard is hard too. You don’t want to hand your attacker your gun. You don’t have time to use the sights even if you could.

and then call the police first.  First one to the phone gets to tell ALL the story, and not be on the defense.

Our third story happened last week in Arnold, Missouri.

Rob- First this break.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at work in the afternoon?  

You and your family own a pawn shop. The store is in the southern suburbs of Saint Louis. You have construction equipment chained up outside and the usual flow of customers. A young man comes in and walks up to the cash register. He draws a gun and demands the cash. You’re armed. You and your family are always armed. You draw and shoot your attacker until he drops his gun.

You retreat into the back of the store and call police.

Rob- That is a lot to think about.

Amanda- That is why you take a class. That is why you go to the range. You also have to listen to this podcast so you review your plans.

 You must have a business defence plan.  Who does what. When do you – if you get that ‘something is wrong’ feeling – notify others working in the store and HOW.   Have a code word, code sentence.

Amanda-   We use “Hey Rob, forgot to tell you – uncle Ed called.  Call him back” Uncle Ed, bless his heart, has been dead since the 70’s.   

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Amanda, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Amanda- You can find me at eye on the target radio radio. I have two radio programs and I instruct on the weekends.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Amanda-  We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music.

Rob- I think the next time we talk will be at the NRA convention in Dallas.

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Episode 103 with Ben Branam

Can you protect yourself at home, at work, and as you drive? Firearms instructor Ben Branam brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves.. and those they love. (15 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 103 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm for self-defense, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. Firearms instructor Ben Branam joins us as co-host.

 

Rob- Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Ben- We study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn. What should we do if we were in this situation? Our first story took place last week in Travelers Rest, South Carolina.  Here is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?

You’re at home at 10 in the evening. You hear someone breaking the back window of your home. You grab your gun and investigate. You see a stranger standing in the back of your home. He has a knife. You shout for him to leave. He shouts back. You shoot. Now he runs.

You call police.

The police find the robber next to your home and take him to the hospital. Your attacker was arrested for burglary and drug possession. He is out of state prison on parole.

 

 

Ben- Our second story happened last week in Avondale, Arizona.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed as you drive with your children?   

You were attacked by your boyfriend. You want to stay with your family for a few days, so you drive to your home to get some clothes. Your boyfriend appears from around the corner of the house. He orders you inside. Your child is in the car and you say you have to drop him off first. Your kidnapper gets in the car. He turns away and talks to the child. You grab his gun and get out of the car.

The kidnapper runs and you shoot at him. You call police and they find your attacker nearby. He is charged with aggravated assault, kidnapping, and possession of a weapon by a prohibited person.

Ben- Our third story happened last week in Aurora, Colorado.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at work?

You’re a barber. You are at work in your shop when you hear gunshots coming from the small grocery store next door. You look outside and the glass at the front of the grocery store shatters. You get against the wall. A man runs out of the store and continues to shoot into the building the store owner chases him. The robber continues to shoot and you see that your neighbor is hit. You draw your firearm and shoot the robber. Now he runs. The Indian woman who owns the store in injured and you go to help her. Someone calls police.

Rob- That wraps up this episode. Ben, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Ben- You can find me at Modern Self Protection.com.  I live in San Antonio, and most of my classes are in central Texas.  I teach armed self-defense and church security. Listeners can see my class schedule at my website, and they can also listen to my podcast Modern Self-Protection.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Ben-  We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 102 with Tony Simon

Can you defend yourself at home? Firearms instructor Tony Simon brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves and those they love. (12 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 102 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Tony Simon as co-host this week.

Hi, Tony.  How have you been?

Tony- Hi, Rob.  I’ve designed a $10  2nd Amendment Rally Tee shirt that can be used at 2A rallies across the country.

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Rob- After that introduction, please explain our podcast to our new listeners.

Tony- Each week we study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn. Our first story took place last week in Jacksonville, Florida.  Here is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You’re at home in your apartment around noon. You answer the knock at your door. Two men push their way inside. One of them has a gun. You back away and run upstairs. Your attackers follow you. You draw yours and fire. Both men run. They jump out the upstairs window. You call police. The police arrest one wounded robber a few blocks away.

Tony- Don’t open the door. It isn’t rude to talk to strangers through a door. Your door is the final layer of perimeter security keeping people outside of your home. This homeowner had to get into a foot race with two home intruders.

Carry a gun on your person, Pants on,  Gun on.

Rob- What did our homeowner do correctly?

Tony- He didn’t give up. He backed up and that bought him time.

Tony- Our second story happened last week in Washington County, Oregon.

Rob- Second Story- Are you armed at home?   

You’re at home on a friday morning. You hear someone in your home. That doesn’t make sense, so you go look what’s happening. A man is standing in your kitchen. You yell at him. He grabs a knife from the kitchen counter. You draw your firearm and tell him to drop the knife and not move. You grab your phone and call police. You also take a picture of the robber. He runs, but is picked up the next day by police.

Tony- Please lock your doors. That makes most thieves go away. Your locked door also gives you more time to react.

Having your self defense tool on your body gives you options and opportunity that an unarmed defender won’t have. You have a purpose made tool for defensive use so you don’t have to search for an improvised weapon.

Tony- Let the thugs go..but I have to give our homeowner style points for taking a photograph.

Rob- Let the second home owner take a photo once he’s off the phone with police.

Tony- Our third story happened last week in Fulton County, Georgia.

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed at home?

Your mom came by to take your son to the doctors. You are inside your house and your mom has your son loaded into the car. You hear your mom scream. You’re armed and you go outside to see what is happening. An armed man is pointing a gun at your mom. You shoot him several times. He runs to the waiting car and drives away. You check on your son, and then call police.

Tony- How long does it take to go to your back closet, get your gun, get your ammunition, load your magazine, put the loaded magazine into your gun, rack the slide and run to the front of the house.

Rob- too long.

Tony- exactly. Have a loaded gun on you because you won’t have time for anything else.

Rob- This isn’t as simple as it sounds. I have to defend my mom and my son while a robber and kidnapper is standing next to them.

Tony- We can practice being both fast and accurate. Go to the range and shoot a man sized target at 5 yards, and on out to 20 yards. The easy part is to notice how long it takes you to make those hits at the range. Then you have to give yourself the time you need even though your mom is facing a gun. That is the hard part.

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tony, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Tony- My website is DiversityShoot.com

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  

Tony-   If you liked this show, then you’ll like the other podcasts on the Self-defense radio network. We share this podcast with you for free.  Please share it with a friend and give us a rating on I-Tunes and Stitcher.  We’re also available on Google Play Music.

Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

Episode 101 with Andee Reardon

Can you defend yourself at home? Firearms instructor Andee Reardon brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves and those they love. (15 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 101 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Andee Reardon as co-host this week.

Hi, Andee.  How have you been?

Andee- Hi, Rob.  

It’s been busy, We are still digging out from the last snow storm and preparing for another one tonight!

 Two days ago I held a concealed carry clinic for women at a local gun shop! We packed the room with women and had a great time.

Rob- That is good to hear. Please introduce our podcast to our new listeners.

Andee- Each week at Self Defense Gun Stories we study three recent examples of armed defense to see what we can learn. Our first story took place last week in Corpus Christi, Texas.  Here is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed at home?  

You’re at home at 1:30 in the morning. You hear glass breaking at the front of your apartment. You also hear voices. You grab your gun you see your ex-boyfriend in your front room. He sees your gun and runs away. You follow him out the door. You shoot at him. Your neighbors tackle him, but he gets up and runs away. Now you call police.

After the police arrive, someone points out your ex-boyfriend’s car in the parking lot. He’s come back. Now the police chase him until he crashes his car.

Your ex-boyfriend was arrested on suspicion of burglary with intent to commit another crime, evading arrest, evading arrest in a vehicle and resisting arrest. He is in jail waiting to make his at $37,000 bail.

Andee- I wouldn’t want to wake up and get into a physical fight at 1:30 in the morning. I’m glad the homeowner was armed.

Rob- I don’t want that fight, and I’m a guy over 6ft tall.

Andee- That is why a plan is important. The moment the attacker started to run, the victim should have stayed in a safe area and waited for police. Most states don’t see it as self defense if the attacker is running away and you chase them.

Rob- You talk to your students about what to do if they are attacked? It is a legal jeopardy if you chase your attacker.

Andee- It is more than that. You’re also putting yourself in danger not knowing if he is running to retrieve a weapon or if there are more suspects outside with him. You’re inviting trouble and giving up the advantage you hold. By leaving the house you’re losing your use of cover.

Rob- It is pretty easy to stay in your bedroom and defend your doorway. It is harder to protect yourself when you’re out on the street.

Andee- One more thing, the time you spend chasing the bad guy is time your wasting when you could call the police and get help on the way.

Rob- Is there more?

Andee- A lot of my students were in abusive relationships. Women are at their greatest risk while leaving or just after leaving a relationship with an abuser. This man was so intent on hurting her he was willing to come back even when police were present. This is why I’m such a big advocate for gun rights, I want women to have the ability to keep themselves safe.

Rob- You talk to your students about that issue?

Andee- Yes, I’ve helped women make safety plans, install alarms and cameras and trained them in self defense and firearms. It’s a very dangerous time for them. I do what I can to keep them safe and teach them what to do if things get worse.

Our second story happened last week in Bunker Hill, West Virginia.

Rob- Second Story-  Are you armed at home in the morning.

You hear your dogs bark. Whatever is going on, they sure don’t like it. A second later you hear glass breaking at the back of your home. You grab your 9mm handgun and investigate. You see someone standing in your kitchen. You fire a warning shot into the floor and tell him to lie down. He comes toward you and you shoot again. You shoot him in the leg and he lies down. You call police.

They arrest the robber and take him to the hospital and then to jail. He’s being held on a 100 thousand dollar bond.

Andee- Aren’t dogs great? I teach my students to be aware of their dogs behavior and utilize them as alarm systems. Who knows what would have happened if this family did not own a dog.

Rob- I’ll have to buy an alarm instead.

Andee- Who knows what would have happened if they did not have a gun in the home. I’m glad they did but I did notice a few things that could have been done better.

Rob- What’s that?
Andee- The first thing was the warning shot. Using verbal commands and pointing your gun at the intruder should be all warning they need. You are responsible for every round you shoot. When you feel your life is being imminent danger, that is when you shoot.

Rob- Good idea. No warning shots.

Andee- The homeowner shot the man in the leg. I don’t know if that was intentional, the fact that he fired a warning shot makes me think it may have been. When you shoot in self defense it’s important to fire at what we call “center mass” which is the chest area. You need to stop the threat as quickly as possible. Shooting at the leg may not stop the attacker and under stress would be easy to miss altogether.

Rob- A gun is a lethal tool. Don’t use it or threaten to use it unless you’re facing a lethal threat.

Andee- There is an idea that being shot in the leg isn’t lethal. It is. Some of your largest arteries are down there. A gunshot can be lethal no matter where you shoot, and it is always considered as the use of lethal force.

Rob- Give me one more comment before we go on to our last story.

Andee- Two people lived in the home. If you can then grab your gun, close your door, and call the police. If there are two of you, then one can defend while the other one handles communications. Believe it or not, but you can’t talk and shoot at the same time. Protect yourself first.

Rob- That is the plan we talked about.

Andee- Exactly. Our third story happened last week in Austin, Texas.

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Rob- Third story- Do you have a gun nearby when you are in your bedroom?

You and your wife are asleep in your bed. You wake up when your wife nudges you. You thought it was your son talking to you, but you look up to see a stranger standing at the foot of your bed with a knife in one hand and a stick in the other.

The stranger says, ‘hey man . . . my wife is under the house and Chuck Norris is waiting for me and I’m having a hard time.’

You slowly reach for your gun and point it at the intruder. You dial 911.

The homeowner said the intruder never lunged toward him but appeared mentally disturbed. “If he’d had a gun rather than a knife I would have fired.”

Andee- I told you that dogs were a good idea. This man said his german shepherd would have torn the intruder apart but wasn’t in the home that night.

They are extremely lucky, if the intruder was able to stand over them while they were sleeping he could have killed them. Maybe they always depended on the dog to alert them and because the dog wasn’t home they didn’t wake up.  I wonder how he got in. Were the doors locked? Make sure an intruder has to break in rather than walk in. Even a simple alarm would help in a situation like this.

Rob- Should the homeowner have used his gun?

Andee- He did use it, but he didn’t need to press the trigger. He may have had the legal justification to shoot the intruder, but the homeowner did not see an immediate threat. He re-evaluated the situation and decided not to shoot.

Rob- What else?

Andee- The couple was in their bedroom so they could have used teamwork. One on defense. The other on the phone.

Rob- That is our theme for this episode.

Andee- There’s one more thing I want to know….

Did anyone find out what Chuck Norris was doing when this was happening??

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Andee, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Andee- You can find me at EastCoastSchoolofSafety.com and on my facebook and Instagram pages with the same name.

Rob- You can share your thoughts with us by leaving a message on the podcast facebook page.  Blake wrote in and said he was surprised. Everyone says that carrying a gun is uncomfortable, but Blake doesn’t find it so. He carries a Glock 19 in the appendix position inside the waistband. He says the only time he notices the gun is if he has to bend over to tie his shoes.

Andee- It is great to hear from you, Blake, and thank you for carrying. Finding the right gun and holster for you can be challenging. It’s even harder for women! That’s why I started doing the concealed carry clinics for women, it’s a great way to learn what others like and dislike and try some out before you buy.

Rob- We carry concealed and so can you.

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Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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Episode 100 with Tiffany Johnson

Can you protect yourself at home and at work? Tiffany Johnson brings us three news stories of armed civilians who protected themselves and those they love. (19 minute audio podcast)

Rob- Introduction- Welcome to episode 100 of Self-Defense Gun Stories.  This podcast is for people who might want a firearm, and for those who already have one.  I’m your host, Rob Morse. We have firearms instructor Tiffany Johnson as co-host this week.

Hi, Tiffany. This is your first episode. Please say hello.

Tiffany- Hi, Rob.

Rob- Now that you’ve introduced yourself, please introduce our podcast.

Tiffany- Each week we study three recent examples of armed defense. Our first story took place last week in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Here is what happened.

Rob- First story-  Are you armed as you go to work?

You have to arrive at work before 6AM. It is still dark when you follow other cars into the lot. You park, and before you can get out of your car, another car pulls up right behind you. There is a man with a gun standing at your door. You’re armed  and have your concealed carry license. It isn’t clear from the story if you shot while you were seated or if you got out of the car first.

The car behind you takes off. You call police. They said your attacker had two felony convictions.

Tiffany- have a gun

Rob-

Tiffany- have a plan. Are you going to defend yourself from inside your car? Have you practiced that?

Rob- Where would your students learn to present a firearm while they were sitting down?

Tiffany- call the police, follow instructions

Tiffany- Our second story happened last week in Hemet, California.

Rob- Second Story-  Do you have a gun accessible at night?

You are a couple in your 70s. It is after midnight when you hear someone break into your home. The male homeowner gets out of bed and grabs his firearm. He finds a stranger in the bathroom. The intruder attacks the male homeowner. Eventually, you shoot your attacker..and so does the female homeowner..with her 357 revolver.

The intruder runs away. He is out on parole with a long record of convictions.

Tiffany- disparity of force

Tiffany- hard to combine a physical struggle and a gun fight. This takes training and practice since guns are usually distance tools.

Rob- Where would your students learn to use a firearm on an attacker that is within arms reach.

Tiffany- Our third story happened last week in Swansboro, North Carolina

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Rob- Third story- Are you armed when you are driving your car?

You’re driving your car down the road at 9 in the morning. You notice a police car ahead. The officer and another man are wrestling in the ditch at the side of the road. You stop your car. As you walk towards the officer you draw your firearm. The suspect sees your gun and rolls over on his stomach.

You holster your firearm as police arrive. The vehicle the officer stopped was being used as a meth lab. The suspect was charged with possession of methamphetamine, resisting a public officer, possession of drug paraphernalia and driving with a revoked license.

Tiffany- third party- innocence

Tiffany- good that he had a gun

Tiffany- He didn’t need to use it, but it was a persuasive and deciding deterrent.

Rob- Do you talk about defending a third party with your students?

Exit-  Rob- That wraps up this episode. Tiffany, thank you for helping us today.  Where can we learn more about you?

Tiffany- My website is Front Sight Press and I instruct at Citizens Safety Academy and Rangemaster

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Rob- I’m Rob Morse.  We’ll be back next week with more Self-Defense Gun Stories.

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